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AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:13 am

I heard some one talking about AA f-100's originally being for American Eagle.I'm just wondering if this is true or not?
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:19 am

No, that is completely false. At the time the F-100s arrived (1991), I believe the largest aircraft Eagle had was the ATR. Regional jets weren't even considered for Eagle, plus AA knew the F-100 wouldn't work on an Eagle cost structure.

Also remember that at that time, Eagle wasn't one carrier. It was just like the United Express or Delta Connection family.... American Eagle was just a banner under which numerous carriers flew (Nashville Eagle/Flagship, Simmons, Wings West, Executive were the big ones... I believe Metroflight was still around at the point when the F-100 arrived).
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:21 am

False. Original intent was N/S flying along both coasts, but the plane ultimately failed to obtain SNA-E(exempt) noise rating.
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:22 am

It's an untrue rumor. Back in 1989, AA placed 75 firm orders and 75 options for the F-100 to replace the hodge-podge of aircraft they had at the time. They were intended to replace the 737-200s, 737-300s, BAe-146s inherited from AirCal, as well as the handful of 727-100s still in the fleet at the time.
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:29 am

Out of curiosity why wouldn't the F100 work with AE's cost structure?
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:33 am

Out of curiosity why wouldn't the F100 work with AE's cost structure?

Currently Eagle is on a fee-per-departure arrangement (but only for the last year so far). Under the current cost structure, the cost would test the limits of the set fee Eagle collects. With a fixed income, it's in Eagle's best interest to keep costs as low as possible so they make money. Meanwhile, the F-100 has mainline AA's largest CASM I believe.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:35 am

It has AA's largest CASM due to the Tay. They could apply the capital intensive fix, and then have low recurring costs.

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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:36 am

In that case, why haven't AA been eager to get rid of them sooner? I read somewhere else that MX were getting the A318 so they could get rid of their F100's, since the maintenance absolutely hated it due to a constant lack of spares.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:38 am

In that case, why haven't AA been eager to get rid of them sooner? I read somewhere else that MX were getting the A318 so they could get rid of their F100's, since the maintenance absolutely hated it due to a constant lack of spares.

Since Sept 11th, 2001, they've been especially eager to be rid of the nasty Fokkers. However, there aren't really any buyers out there. American also didn't have much in the way of a replacement. There's still only 15 or so CRJ-700 on the Eagle property. American has needed the 87-seat F-100 for the time being to fill a gap in the fleet while they realign CRJ and MD-80 to fill where capacity is needed and cut routes where the capacity is unnecessary.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:40 am

Okay, I figured it might have something to do with the capacity being needed combined with the low lust for buying/leasing new planes.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:48 am

That's the first I've heard of the F100 going to Eagle. AA's F100 are going too two places, the desert of being sold to a tour operator in Europe.

CPH-R:

Do you mean AA getting A318's or another carrier?
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:50 am

Do you mean AA getting A318's or another carrier?

He said MX.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:51 am


LMP737,

The original post meant when they were first ordered, if whether or not they were intended for AE.
 
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RE: AA F-100's For Eagle

Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:58 am

My mistake, should have read it a little more closely
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