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BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:50 pm

A new Swiss airline is starting these days...
they flies from Geneva to Lugano and Venice with a DHC8-Q300 and the name of the Airline..... FLY BABOO.....?!?!?!
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:57 pm

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They are starting on Monday (3 November) from Geneva to Lugano twice daily. Taking up the route which Swiss gave up on October 26th.

From November 17th they will fly Geneva-Lugano 3 times daily and Geneva-Venice 5 times per week (2 direct flights, 3 flights via Lugano).

The CEO is Julian Cook an Irish/American entrepeneur, who had previously worked with the south american Low-cost airline Southern Winds.

Flights are using a wet-leased Cirrus Dash 8-300, until early next year when the airline plans to use its own aircraft. The airline plans to launch 2-3 new destinations out of Geneva each year, which could include Bordeaux, Toulouse, Olbia, Marseille, St. Tropez or Florence.

Prices start at 69 CHF one-way incl. taxes.

Their website is also pretty interesting: .

Cheers,
Tim
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:26 am

Hello

Does someone have any information on the other possible Swiss startup Helvetic Wings (Swiss domestic airline)? They wanted to begin operations in late October but nothing happened and there's no update on their website.

RJ100

P.S.: Good luck Baboo!  Smile
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:42 am

Always nice to see another Swiss airline.

@RJ100: Helvetic are starting as planned on November 28. I just wonder how the bookings are going with comparatively high fares.

Edited to add: Sorry to say that I misread your previous post. I saw Helvetic and just presumed that new airline started with F100s and did not bother reading the rest where you said "Swiss domestic airline" etc. I have't actually heard any news of Helvetic Wings these days. Embarrassment  Nuts

Jeremiah

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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:49 am

@Teahan: That's good news that they will start soon. I heard they charge CHF199 for a oneway flight-quite expensive!

At least they are faster than SBB/CFF so this might be their advantage.

Thomas
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:55 am

What a horrible name!!!! babOOOOO!!!!!!
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:58 am

I don't think the name is horrible. Much better than always

...Airlines or
...Airways.

Just my opinion though  Smile

RJ100
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:03 am

Baboo? Are they trying to attract high yield business travellers with a name like Baboo?

Good luck to them.
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:03 am

No problem Jeremiah Big grin
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:17 am

Yeah, the name leaves something to be desired, IMHO. But those high yield business passengers don't care about the name when the price is right and besides, on that route there is no other choice. I wish them well.

I would also like to see Helvetic do something in Switzerland.

But I mostly want to see SWISS do something well because then maybe I can go back to my old job!!!  Big grin
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:32 am

Saab2000,
was just wondering when you flew GVA/ZRH-LUG how were the loads? It must certainly be a very challenging runway to land at night and in fog.

Tim
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:34 am

Sounds like the name of a gorilla transport. Fly Baboo Indeed!
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:40 am

Baboo makes me personally think of Seinfeld. In one episode Jerry forgets to send the immigration papers of an Indian man named... Baboo.

The name of Baboo comes from the fact that the owner has a music company which is called Baboo music.

Tim
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:00 am

He was actually Pakistani and gets deported.

It's a bad name but hillariously funny!
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:50 am

Just for your information: At this time, the flights are operated by Cirrus Airliners with Cirrus cockpit crew and Baboo F/As. Cirrus is actually holding the rigths for the flights between GVA/LUG. I don't know whether Baboo will build up own operations anytime soon.

I don't have too much information right now, but I will certainly give them a try within the next weeks. I wish them all the best!

By the way, what's the newest about the other LUG startup "Darwin Airline"?

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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:54 am

Is BaBoo really any worse than Song?
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:58 am

Is there really a need for another swiss airline?
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:59 am

Baboo sounds like baboon  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Let's hope they succed.
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:20 am

Well' I'd say, let's all photograph this one quickly, I don't think that they'll last very long  Wink/being sarcastic

Mike
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:34 am

Boeing747-400,

When I flew GVA-LUG the loads tended to be quite good. I am surprised that SWISS gave up this route. As a Crossair route it was supposedly quite profitable. The road and train connections between these two cities are not very good.

The approach to LUG is always interesting. I don't want to sound morbid, but LUG can kill you if you do not know what you are doing. It is a very difficult approach when the weather is bad. The terrain is very tricky and occasionally there is a tendency for southerly winds. The IGS approach is frequently flown with a tailwind, making it tougher. It is ironic. The IGS approach is usually not flown because it is so steep. Normally we flew a visual approach for a more constant descent profile. But just when the weather was bad we had to fly the approach to the north. And what made the weather bad was the southerly winds because the weather would sort of pile up against the mountains to the north. There is no instrument approach to the south, only a visual.

It is an approach which requires special training and this is correct. It is challenging, especially when the weather is tricky. I have done a number of missed approaches in LUG.

A week ago I saw the aircraft from Cirrus doing flight training in LUG and this was great to see. They were flying visuals and IGS approaches with go-arounds, including several single-engine G/As! It was VMC so this was no problem, but a single-engine go-around in LUG is tough to fly and I have a lot of respect for the Cirrus crews for practicing this critical manoeuver.

smrtrthnu
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:40 am

Who came up with this dumb name?!?!
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:47 am

Thanks Saab200 for your rather interesting infos!
Mike
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:29 pm

Maybe they really survive and paint their planes like planned:



I'm not sure if Darwin Airlines (what a name for a swiss carrier) will ever get off the ground...
 
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RE: BaBoo A New Swiss Airline

Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:21 am

<> You are right Unique. For me Darwin is in northern Australia where people drink a lot of beer  Smile/happy/getting dizzy and where I saw huge "Salties" (saltwater crocodiles) and from where I left on a Qantas 767 to Singapore  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
(or Darwin was the famous biologist)