dan2002
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Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:09 am

On Wedensday when Concorde makes its final flight across the U.S what major cities will Concorde pass over. And personally since I have never seen Concorde in real life I would love to know if it will pass over Cleveland and at what time or over any of the near suburbs. Thanks to all who helps out, because I would love to see it once not in a museum.
And if anyone knows please reply before nine O clock EST so I can take off school.




Thanks to all,
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:17 am

It of course will depend on weather conditions, but generally a flight from JFK to the Seattle area will fly over the northern tier of the US. I would think Buffalo, Toronto, possibly near Detroit, Minneapolis, Fargo, Billings, Spokane, and finally to BFI.

Since it will be subsonic, and the fuel burn rate will be high, it's certainly possible it may have to make a fuel stop someplace?
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:25 am

Well, just an estimate, but.............

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=JFK-BFI&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=

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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:27 am

Man.. what I would give for the info on a possible fuel stop. If it stops in Fargo, Bismarck, Billings, or somewhere nearbye I'll go crazy knowing it was "around" without me seeing it.
 
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:21 am

Well, Looks like no fuel stop:

"Concorde G-BOAG will arrive at Boeing Field following a non-stop flight of
approximately six hours from New York™s John F. Kennedy International
Airport. The flight was conducted sub-sonically due to FAA regulations
prohibiting supersonic flight over the continental United States."


source:

http://www.museumofflight.org/news/031103ConcordeArrivalMedia.pdf

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dan2002
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:51 am

Does anyone have any times or any other info?

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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:19 am

JFK-Philidelphia, Washington DC, RDU, JAX, MIA, HOU, DFW, DEN, SLC, Boise, BFI


Hey.... I can dream, you know!

jw why the concorde goes so slow subsonicly... 6 hours seems a little long.... 5 would be more realistic
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dan2002
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:31 am

Does any insider know the almost exact route that it will be taking with all the waypoints and such?
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:32 am

"jw why the concorde goes so slow subsonicly... 6 hours seems a little long.... 5 would be more realistic"

The typical east to west coast transcon goes around 5:30-6 hrs. Have to fight headwinds from the jet stream. The typical west to east transcon can go under 5 hrs. These are the typical times that I've personally travelled from JFK to SFO/LAX/SEA/SJC on 757s, 767s, and 777s.
 
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:41 am

yes I agree with SFOJFK the j/s has a major impact on it.
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:14 am

I am hoping that the j/s has enough of an effect to make it stop in FAR. I will be watching the flight tracker, and be next to my car.

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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:20 am

Anybody know the exact time it will be leaving JFK? If it is arriving at Boeing Field at 3PM PST...I assume it will be leaving JFK around 12PM EST?

It would be cool if it did a flyby near Manhattan...I will be in the city and would love to see it go by!
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:27 am

You guys should check this out, really...

Source: http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_110403WAconcordeKC.1c3f0936.html

Concorde to retire at Seattle's Museum of Flight
06:06 PM PST on Tuesday, November 4, 2003

By GLENN FARLEY / KING 5 News


SEATTLE – Thousands of people may come to greet the Concorde for its arrival at Boeing Field Wednesday.

The Concorde is expected Wednesday at 3 p.m. and will be displayed at the Museum of Flight – one of only two U.S. museums to acquire a British Airways Concorde.

In the 1960s and 1970s, it was a given that all airline passengers would be flying supersonic by the turn of the century. And it was into this era that the Concorde was born. But on Oct. 24, 2003, British Airways made its final commercial flight with Concorde, and thus the supersonic airline era was over.

“The Concorde is what we consider an icon of this first century of flight. And to have it added to our collection is just marvelous,” said Ralph Bufano, Museum of Flight.

Bufano is a very happy man. Since 1985, the museum has tried to get its own Concorde to display alongside slower but more commercially successful jets.

“There were between 70 and 80 museums vying for these aircraft, and only two British aircraft came to the United States,” he added.

Wherever Concorde goes, it gets attention. Twice in Seattle, it drew big crowds. And Wednesday at Boeing Field is expected to be no different.

It will be the final landing for one of only 20 planes built.

Traffic may be snarled near the museum. Washington State Patrol has had issues with people before when they parked on I-5 to watch the B-2 Stealth bomber coming in.

There will be no public parking at the museum of flight Wednesday, but the museum is providing some 2,000 parking spaces and a free shuttle bus to get folks from marked lots along East Marginal Way down to the museum.
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:11 pm

GDB, I heard you are going to be on the subsonic leg, and if you pass over North East Ohio please take a pic for me, because by the way it looks I wont be seeing it.
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RE: Major Cities Concorde Will Pass Over To BFI?

Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:37 am

I would if I was on it, which I'm not!
Either the BGI or Filton for me, as I'm not on OAD's flight to JFK next Monday either.
Despite being subsonic, it will still be at Mach 0.95, so still faster than the rest of the traffic over the US!

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