A merge with AM
sounds strange since it looks like they are going in different directions regarding fleet commonality. MX
with short/haul Airbus, and AM
with short/haul Boeing. They only thing in common is their B757 and the arrival of the 767 in Mexicana also will make it a common plane for both. If they were to stick together, it would have been smart to renew F100 with Boeing in order to have more common types with AM
, or AM
ordering Airbuses. If so is the case, then CINTRA should have opted for Boeing or Airbus only.
But if the merger is true then MX
would go to Skyteam (where AM
is a founding member). I don't see AM
pulling out of Skyteam to form a new flag Mexican carrier and rejoin an alliance. It is too much money you need to invest. If they merge they will stick to Skyteam.
But why move from the leading alliance to the third Oneworld? Skyteam is going to become the second shortly with KL
If things were going well with Star, the fact that has been sold to Slim, shouldn't affect the fact that MX
was a member of Star Alliance. MX
early flights to LAX
have people connecting to Asia, flights to ORD
connecting to other UA
destinations in the US and beyond. Well, maybe we'll get Sanborn's enchiladas on MX
Could this code-sharing thing be some sort of negotiating strategy? Who knows, Slim puts good pressure on its partner to make better deals. Remember Sears in Mexico, he got 5 yrs. of no brand revenue. He is a good businessman, he has a plan for sure.
But being in Star, I guess it was only working very well with UA
doesn't fly to Europe on its own so partnering with BD
(little American presence); JK
(no American presence); SK
(few destinations in America, and not really in the same places were MX
flies regularly) add few value to MX
since codeshare or connecting flights don't seem to be interesting for both sides.
They don't work close at all with NH
(since all they can offer is a connecting flight from/to LAX
Regarding South America, RG
has few flights to Mexico, and having MX
receiving their 767s I guess they will offer more destinations on the south through nonstop flights. They already codeshare on Santiago with LA
On the other hand, UA
could start more services to Mexico (they have a lot of planes grounded), the same will go with AC
, so MX
will have more competition it didn't use to have on their routes to the 3 major Canadian cities and US: SFO
. It doesn't seem to be a good move, hope it proves wrong and MX
doesn't have that many planes to compete back.
But same thing will happen it they move to Oneworld: they will only work closely with AA
(the only difference is that there will be 2 Europeans that fly to Mexico). Maybe one new MX
flight would be ZRH
instead of FRA
if they pull out of Star and LX
doesn't serve ZRH
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If they go to Oneworld, I guess AA
-MX wouldn't create synergies. AA
flights into Mexico go nonstop to major destinations: GDL
, SJD, BJX. AA
only common nonstop flights with MX
to Mexico are: Chicago (to various Mexican destinations where they compete) and Miami. And AA
doesn't have big hubs on the other mexican important US gateways like LAX
couldn't really start DFW
flies there. Also true is that AA
has good connecting service through their hubs in MIA
, but MX
wouldn't be as helpful as it was to UA
. Here is a summary:
has almost no presence (no value added, contrary to UA
South America: AA
has a powerful route network, why MX
Central America: AA
has an agreement to serve with Grupo Taca. Why MX
doesn't go to DFW
with 757 and A300 three times a day, and MX
only twice with A319. AA
offers all their connections with the flights they currently operate.
doesn't go there, for now, but AA
has great connections with their own flights. Why use MX
"Not all Star Alliance carriers code shares with each other. However, AFAIK there's mileage accruals and redemption on all Star carriers."
That is true, but their natural working partners are UA
. Mexicana is the airline that transports more passengers between Mexico and the US and Canada. Also lounge access will end.
"Urgh, I've got a customer on a UA
/MX codeshare between GDL
The agreement will come to an end on March 31, 2004.
You said on another forum that the one of two new A319s joining the fleet later this year had a surprise, may that be the new alliance announcement?
"a LANMEXICO created with the purchase of MX
That could be, but LAN Chile is renaming itself to LAN America (creating a unique brand to all its airlines), but airline ownership in Mexico to foreigners is restricted to small percentage. Mexicana has a well established name, brand and image, it would be a waste to rename it.
FFs, Oneworld only accrues 25% of miles in discounted economy fares, so that will be something passengers will dislike. They only accrue 100% on Y and B economy full fare classes. Unlike Star and Skyteam so far. That is no good news to Frecuenta.