connector4you
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Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:23 pm


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I often wondered WHY there is no Paris direct non-stop connection from North -Western Canada or US !
From San Francisco two airlines are flying the route: United - B763, Delta/Air France (codeshare) - A343.From Los Angeles we've got Air Tahiti Nui - A343 and Air France/ Delta (codeshare) - B747. North of SFO all the way up on the West Coast . . . Nothing !

For years Air France was rumored to come at Vancouver International but nothing materialized .

Personally I think it would make a lot of sense for Delta to start operating a Seattle to Paris route of course in codeshare with Air France, and all the other SkyTeam airlines-members. Could be a big money maker !

 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:34 pm

Personally I think it would make a lot of sense for Delta to start operating a Seattle to Paris route

It would definitely be a big moneymaker IF the rumored Alaska/Delta codeshare and partnership agreement is a go.

AS would get to funnel traffic from ANC and SE Alaska down to SEA as well as QX getting traffic from all over the Pacific Northwest..all flowing onto DL's Seattle-Paris nonstop!
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:57 pm

Maybe you will see NW fly SEA-CDG when they join Skyteam! They already codeshare with AS.
 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:18 pm

I don't think this is very likely. Seattle is not a very large market for Delta, but it is true that a code-share arrangement with AS would boost Delta's revenue out of Sea Tac. Delta probably would not want to add international routes out of cities that are not hubs or specific focus cities with a large presence, such as Boston.

 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:16 pm

NW already flies to AMS, so why also to CDG? AMS-CDG is served about 20x a day, perfect connections. AMS is the NW hub in Europe
 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:33 am

There actually IS something in the pipeline ... stand by for some news on this subject, but not until summer 2005 .... and it MAY surprise y'all ....

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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:19 am

Seattle to Paris - Unlikely

Vancouver to Paris - Likely

The Seattle market is good ... the drawback is that SAS and BA have all that they can do to fill the aircraft now. NWA fills seats as it offers West Coast connections with Alaska Airlines.

The Vancouver market is much more appealing to European and Asian airlines. The Asian community in Vancouver is very large. The Italian/Dutch/British/German community is very large in Vancouver. Before anyone else starts Vancouver to Paris. Look for Air Canada!


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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:33 am

Delta definitely needs more feed at SEA - as of right now, they don't have much of a presence at SEA. It seems unlikely that their next route addition would be international. They should start more domestic west coast service to SEA to feed that CDG flight.
 
connector4you
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:35 am

For the moment it looks like a strong blossoming synergy is going on between North West KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Alaska Airlines, Horizon Air and Hawaiian Airlines
The latest news involving this particular group of airlines was released today:

http://www.iht.com/articles/116941.html

Simultaneously, Northwest announced that its 755 airport self-service check-in kiosks, located at 188 airports, are also able to provide customers with boarding passes on itineraries involving both Northwest and the six partner airlines.

Since NorthWest and Continental already do codeshare with Alaska/Horizon, I think is just a matter of time before Delta will join this very lucrative structure. As a direct result of this, yes Seattle could become over night a very large market for Delta without the necessity of building up a new hub at SeaTac airport.

It's very true that NW flies Amsterdam out of SEA but not every one gets a convenient connection flight out of Schiphol. There are a bunch of exclusive destinations served either by AMS or GDG. On top of that an option to choose between airlines and destinations will always be enticing and engaging for travelers looking for new experiences.

I don't see any reasons why Air Canada would be willing to serve Paris from Vancouver. They seem to stick to their old pattern of feeding Toronto and Montreal with passengers originating in Vancouver.

Direct non-stop Vancouver to Paris by Air France? Slim chances. Not enough SkyTeam (or partners) feeding-structure in place at Vancouver International. Besides Air France already had a bad experience flying to Vancouver few years back. KLM and Martinair are both serving Vancouver in the summer time


 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:46 am

Seattle? Delta had an excellent international hub at Portland, which they downsized and eventually closed.
 
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RE: Should Delta Consider Seattle To Paris Route?

Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:12 am

Nwacrew makes a good point, about when they had PDX-NRT. But with the Economy at that time along with the Customs/Imigration issue at PDX, DL saw the writing on the wall. If the AS codesrare comes to be, it could offer some feeder traffic opportunities. At the same time, NW has an excellent presence at SeaTac and at the heels of NW joining Skyteam it would be redundant. It just wouldn't be cost effective. It seems like the Pac.Northwest only has a few profitable markets to Europe-Germany, Holland and the Scadianvian countries. Just my two cents...
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