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Why No Iberia Service....

Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:21 am

Why is it that IB fly from Spain to LHR, MAN, BHX and many other airports in the UK but not to any destination in the South West?

CWL & BRS are both capable of handling a IB service say to MAD with a very good PAX at a guess...

Please tell me why?

Any ideas?

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:47 am

"CWL & BRS are both capable of handling a IB service say to MAD with a very good PAX at a guess..."

Very much doubt that CWL/BRS would fill anything bigger than a CRJ...I hear MAN is/was struggling filling their BCN service.

Iberia serve LHR,LGW and MAN in the UK. They do not serve BHX.
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:08 am

OK then say an Air Nostrum (IB REIGIONAL) operates a CRJ from: CWL..

MAD - CWL x 2 daily
BCN - CWL 5x weekly

Would that be a good option.. or not?

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:09 am

God, all this ramping of Cardiff is getting crazy.

MAN's BCN service is safe-ish...IB do that route, whilst BA have MAD covered...the 2 main spanish destinations stitched up by OneWorld, with baby bmi and Monarch also doing BCN.

Why on earth anyone thinks an airport(CWL) with passenger numbers dwarfed by others still without Iberia service (eg BHX) should have double daily rotations, is beyond me.

Carriers open routes for revenue and profit, not because spotters or locale enthusiasts think 'it would be cool.'

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:13 am

God, all this ramping of Cardiff is getting crazy.

I'm thinking the same Laugh out loud

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:55 am

Ok, so CWL is getting a lot of attention on these boards, but respect to EGFFbmi! Wasn't CWL the fastest growing airport in the UK last year?

With airports in the South East so congested, regional airports will surely come into their own soon. KLM has a very healthy transfer market out of CWL for people who realise that it is a waste of time to schlep up to London.

Also Air Wales is expanding at the moment, starting the following routes in the next few months:

SWS-AMS
CWL-NCL-GLA
GLA- Galway

Their website also mentions new services to BRU, although it is not clear whether this is from CWL or SWS.

 
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:11 am

MAN-BCN on IB performed thus up to July:
422 flights, 45500 passengers (108 per flight, about 72% loads?). Summer is obviously better for loads (80% or so),

One of ZB services I heard inbound this week had 169 pax on board but it will be February or March before the figures get published.

IB used to serve BHX (they had a 3 weekly service, with MAN a 4 weekly servive) but moved the BHX flights to MAN a few years ago. IB did have a 2nd daily flight to MAN (from MAD) but withdrew it after a year or less. However, there are strong rumours about Air Nostrum starting a MAD-MAN service shortly (was expected in December, not it's February) but I've not seen anything concrete about their plans.

Oh, mustn't forget the 6 weekly MAD-EDI service Air Nostrum operated whilst the Edinburgh festival was on this year.

Shamu, maneouvre one of the 4-holers to MAN (either variety will do!)

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:43 am

God, all this ramping of Cardiff is getting crazy

My answer GOOD... ur learning about CWL.. exactly what these forums are about, to learn and give your opinions.. And I respect them  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Jaspike there is no need to rant on at me, if you cannot handle the way I feel about Aviation and CWL..TOUGH!

I know that I do rant on about CWL but look at the rest of the boards all you see is UA/AA which will go next...Etc all the time! If I lived near MAN or BHX I would rant on about those.. why u ask? Well because it's your local airport and if no one talks about it who is going to learn about it from foreign countries... FFS most Americans even Europeans spell my country 'WHALES'

For once in your life just realize that the UK isn't just England, PLEASE!

I know that I'm Welsh and im put down for it.. but does that mean I cannot talk about CWL?

After all im fed up of hearing about the 380 and 7e7 but that's life!

After all no airport in Wales & Southwest serves the capital of Spain and I know many a people who want/have flown to MAD but have to travel to London.....

A very annoyed...
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:53 am

To be honest, the only airline that will probably open routes to CWL is BMI Baby, but good luck to them.
No frills carriers often offer a good selection of destinations.
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:11 am

GKirk I will have to disagree with you!

BMIbaby will probably open new routes building on the so far 13-16 successful routes..... new routes could well be...

BCN
NCE
MJV
TXL (I wish)

Air Wales Expansion.. If they keep growing and are able to get support from Welsh assembly I could see them leasing 2/3 A318's (this may sound very over the top but if they do keep growing they may launch new, longer routes) but with their ATR 42's I believe they will launch these routes

ATR 42's
NCL
GLA
BRU

A319

If they do lease them...

MAD
ZRH
FRA
FCO

Also don't forget CWL has a big charter movement so I would expect to see some more expansion there... and also watch out for FR & KL expansion (I have heard that FR could start using CWL has a new hub - from a not very good source but if they did it would be amazing for the area... 2 LCC at CWL... with VERY different destinations... OUT OF TOWN AIRPORTS or CLOSE PROXIMITY AIRPORTS... who would win.. FR or WW (BMIbaby)?

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:35 am

Air Wales will shortly announce an order for 319s (say around 80 or so) to create a proper hub at Cardiff for the whole of Whales.Once the first 30 or so have come on to the line,expect a further order for both 773ERs and 346s to operate long haul flights to Ougadougou,JFK,Quito and other cities crying out for service to Cardiff.
Once phase 1 has been completed,the rumoured takeover of BA will be undertaken with LHR acting as a feeder hub for Cardiff.Analysts have described the second stage as 'rather wooly' but Air Wales executives are confident that Cardiff will soon rival Dubai as the world's super-hub.
 
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:14 pm

Actually, constant ramping does NOT educate people about a subject; it simply encourages readers to bypass that particular thread with their mouse and click elsewhere.



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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:36 am

ROFLMAO Donder10  Laugh out loud  Big thumbs up
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:08 am

Jaspike there is no need to rant on at me, if you cannot handle the way I feel about Aviation and CWL..TOUGH!

EGFFbmi, I said:
I'm thinking the same  Laugh out loud

Note the ' Laugh out loud'. Also... where am I ranting on at you?

After all im fed up of hearing about the 380 and 7e7 but that's life!
The thing is, people are interested in these new aircraft. To be honest, more people are bothered about the A380 & 7E7 than... CWL Big thumbs up Laugh out loud Big grin

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:51 am

Now now, be nice to CWL - they have a jetway there now ! Now if they could only get hold of a jet...
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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:05 am

BlueShamu330s, not miss life on the two holers?

I miss not flying from my favourite field outside of London ( and no, it's not CWL  Insane ), being a Mancunian through and through.

Yes, the 330 experience was unique; a new venture, brand new aircraft and new base; and the 'bus was a dream to fly....what else can make FL400 at the very beginning of a 9 hour sector whilst everyone else fights for levels and speeds below us ?!

The new firm are different through and through, some good, some bad, but it was time for a change for me, and I'm not looking back. It's great fun.  Smile

Now........if I could just get on the -600...........

Dear Richard

My dear friend Richard

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Is Rick still on here, or has he been EZY-Tangoed yet ??!!  Big grin

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RE: Why No Iberia Service....

Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:27 am

Think Rick is hunting for Nessie on the Inverness runs  Laugh out loud
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