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Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:04 am

I'll soon be flying (RT) DEN-HKG on UA. I'm looking at possibly using some of my mileage to purchase an upgrade from coach to business class for the whole trip. My first class "experiences" usually consist of flying on a UA 777 in Y with a PTV.  Big grin So, to those of you who can answer these questions. . .I'm grateful.

1. I was originally looking at flying DEN-SEA-TKY-HKG-TKY-SEA-DEN due to the fact that on the longest legs of the trip (via 777) I'd at least have a PTV in coach. The 744s through SFO, LAX, and ORD don't have PTVs in Y class. . .as I found out lately. Do the UA 744s have PTVs in business class? If they do, I'd probably route myself through SFO or LAX.

2. What are the benifits of flying UA business class on these longer flights, besides the extra room? One meal, or two on the longer segments? Any goodies. . .like playing cards? What other perks are there?

3. Any other thoughts you have would be great.

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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:20 am

The 744s do not have PTVs in Y. They do have PTVs in C. Be aware that certain transpac 777s do not have E+, but all 744s do.

Current UA policy is that international upgrades purchased with miles have to be on an H or higher fare. If you purchased a deeply discounted fare, then you can only upgrade using a "Sweet Spot" SWU if you can get your hands on one.

From personal experience I strongly recommend that you scout out u/g availability ahead of time as bagging NC inventory on transpac flights can be tough. Good luck.
 
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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:27 am

If you go to ,, and click on the UA 744, then on Business class, it says that the bus seats do indeed have PTV's

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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:31 am

Good to know 767-322ETOPS. . .thanks for the heads up. . .I hadn't thought of that.

F9Widebody: Interesting that you mention that, I was just fiddling around on ual.com. I'll go back and check the list. . .I know I've seen it there before. . .thanks for the reminder.

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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:49 am

I flew UA business class on a 747-400 on the short Seoul Inchon 3 hour segement to Tokyo Narita.

The seat was really comfortable and, for business class, had a great recline, seat adjustment. It did indeed have PTVs (same size as in Coach but on an arm that folds up from the middle section between the seats) and noise canceling headsets. It also, if I remember correctly, had an adjustable reading light.

Food was definitely better and more plentiful than coach. I chose the Asian meal (lunch, it was a midday flight), but my traveling companion had the Western meal. Both were good. It is served on a singe tray, like coach, but with real glasses and plates. Drinks are unlimited (although in Coach, United offers free licquor as well).

Overall, a good experience. My partner flew ANA on the IAD-NRT segment in Business (boeing 777 without the new ANA lie flat business seats) and flew UA the rest of the time in Business. He said that the food was better on ANA but that the UA seat was much more comfortable.

My seat on the 747-400 in Business was in the upper deck. I would highly recommend that cabin, especially if you have never sat in the upper deck of the jumbo. Only complaint is that windows are at a weird angle (because of curvature) and you have to really strain your neck to see out well. However, it is really neat to see the wing and engines from so far up.

It is also very nice to be upstairs. There are two flight attendents up there, and they do a good job of serving everybody.

Flying through is a good idea, as the international terminal (you will transit through their on the Tokyo routing) is beautiful and provides great viewing for exotic Asian airlines. They also have a very nice airliner museum in that terminal.

Even if you go in coach, it is not so bad even without the PTVs. On my routings on the 747-400 (SFO-Tokyo-LAX), the service was good on United. They give you two full meals (one after you takeoff and one before you land, if I remember correctly) and from what I remember they were quite tasty. Mid-flight they give you ice cream and cookies. They also come by with water/juice and you can pretty much always ask for drinks from the Flight Attendents anytime. The stewardess on one route even brought me some cake from First Class, on a beautiful dish! They don't have PTVs, but if you pick your seat right you can have good view of an overhead monitor. Movie selection wasn't so bad on my routings.

Narita is not as interesting as I thought it would be. Rather old airport from the 1970s/1980s. However, you will see lots of 747s/777s and a scattering of Airbus and MD-11s.

Hope you get the upgrade and enjoy your trip.

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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:57 am

"My seat on the 747-400 in Business was in the upper deck. I would highly recommend that cabin, especially if you have never sat in the upper deck of the jumbo. Only complaint is that windows are at a weird angle (because of curvature) and you have to really strain your neck to see out well. However, it is really neat to see the wing and engines from so far up. "

I was wondering about that! Thanks for that tidbit of info.

Thanks a heck of a lot for this detailed trip info TranStar.

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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:59 am

Just returned yesterday on United Hong Kong to Chicago. Yes, in Business I did have a PIB (Personal Idiot Box, otherwise known as PTV). Bring reading material. You'll be much better off. On the way over we had lunch, mid flight noodle snack (I slept through it both directions) and another meal shortly before landing. Same thing on the way back. The benefit of business class for those of us who need to be rested before landing in order to conduct business when we're there is the ability to stretch out and sleep. I've done Asia once in coach and though the room in Economy Plus was fine and I happened to have a seat open next to me, it's much harder to sleep soundly in an economy seat. In business you'll get an amenity kit (slipper socks, toothbrush, tissue, eyeshades). If they give you playing cards, the other passengers who are trying to sleep, would probably lynch you. Nothing worse when trying to sleep than hearing some loser shuffling playing cards all night. I don't know why on earth you wouldn't do the flight with the least amount of connections possible. The flight is long enough as it is. Enjoy Hong Kong. A long flight is just a long flight.
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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:04 am

TKY? I assume you mean NRT! (Or even TYO)!

Upgrade is def. worth it. While not as plush as SQ, CX, or NH, going in C over Y on UA is a BIG difference.
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RE: Flying DEN-HKG In United BusinessClass Questions

Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:18 am

Yes, I mean NRT. . .I'm still waking up here. . .good catch.

"I don't know why on earth you wouldn't do the flight with the least amount of connections possible."

Well, going through NRT would only add a couple hours on, and I haven't seen NRT since 1984. . .so I thought it might be a fun connection. But your point is well taken, I'm still pondering the "fun factor" of all the possible routings for now. Thanks Bicoastal.
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