Derico
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A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 9:57 am

As you might have heard on the news, U.S immigration (INS) has decided that the Cuban child that was rescued in November from the Florida Straits will be returned to his father in Cuba. A very credible source of mine tells me that the Cuban exiles, if the decision stands as it is, will be secretly planning, between now & Jan14, what they are calling a "total protest" in Miami-Dade county. They have not announced a date since they want to make a surprise. These protests may include the blocking of the major expressways & avenues of the city (which has arleady been done in June with the "consent" of the polititians), the blocking of Port of Miami, the downtown, & MIAMI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. There is even talk that Broward county, north of Miami (where Ft Lauderdale & its airport are & where I live), will also be affected as Cubans may want to protest here. Now that is highly unlikely because I very much doubt they will be allowed to do so, but in Miami, because the polititians themselves are Cuban-american & may even promote this, they will probably do nothing to stop it, even if it grounds everything down there to a halt. So if you are a pilot that will be flying down to Miami soon, or you are someone who will be travelling down here in the next couple of weeks, or know someone who will, just be forewarned of possible delays or disruptions before & when you arrive if the exiles get their way. Hopefully this time the National Guard will come out & teach all of those cavemen a lesson. Be Safe.
Derico
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:03 am

These moronic Cuban exiles....exactly what is it they are trying to achieve?!?
The boy should be living with his father period. Not these exile idiots who shower him with gifts and take him to Disneyland.

I don't think they will protest FLL...its too far to drive---But MIA is right in the middle of the poorest, most run down parts of Miami so we could see something there.
I saw on TV these mindless protests of June supported by these useless politicians. Hopefully, this whole Elian mess will be over soon.
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:04 am

This is an example of an inappropriate post. To label Cuban immigrants as "cavemen" is ignorant and demeaning. I dont know what your background is, but chances are that your ancestors were immigrants too. You really should think before you post, because you just made a fool of yourself.
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:12 am

Like I said, it seems far fetched tha FLL will be affected.
But the cuban exiles, particularly the older generations, will stop at NOTHING, until they get it their way. I do understand Spanish, & the Cuban radio station Mambi is OPENLY PROMOTING everything I said above. Maybe this time someone will have the BALLS to stop these mindless barbarians right in their tracks.

As for the "Cavemen", I was reffering to those 2500 people, always the same extremists, who want to hold Miami hostage, even making life miserable for the other 1.2 million hard working Cubans who follow the law. So yes, those people who would even think of doing this are cavemen to me. They don't care if ambulances get stuck in the middle of the roads, or if thousands of travellers get stranded, or if millions of commuters arrive at 2:00AM in the morning like what happened in June.
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:14 am

But I'm sorry for not being more specific of whom I'm calling cavemen or barbarians, I'm talking about those Cuban extremists who want everything to always go their way. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:15 am

I agreed with Ben88...it was inappropriate to label the Cuban. I grew up in Miami (I live in Washington DC now) and I can certainly understand the struggle they are having..they lost their country. My ancestors were immigrants because they didn't have a job and they struggled to survived in Minnesota and they do missed their country. Please think twice before you say anything else. This country is becoming a melting pot of all people from the world. Thanks.
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:17 am

They ARE barbarians. They will stop at nothing short of an overthrow of the Castro government and they want US troops to do it. But thankfully there is an embargo against a totally harmless Communist nation while another one with nuclear missles aimed at the US gets Most Favored Nation Status (China)

Maybe these morons will block the runways at MIA....
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Thu Jan 06, 2000 10:22 am

They lost their country?? To whom, alien invaders?!?!


At least they flushed out the corrupt decadent Battista regime and improved health care and illiteracy standards. Many of the exile community had reason to flee...such as being wanted criminals or wealthy capitalists who feared losing their money. I realize that the vast majority are not in this category however.

Is life in this country really so much better than life in Cuba? Its not my call to make but I think its a valid question.
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Fri Jan 07, 2000 10:28 am

Boy, am I glad that we aren't going to Ft. Lauderdale untill late Febuary!! Thanks for the info!
 
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To Ben88 & AmtrakGuy

Fri Jan 07, 2000 10:44 am

Let me see, first of all, I already said I'm sorry for not specifing who I'm calling names. I forgot to realize that this is a global forum, so any statements can be misunderstood, but here in South Florida, people know to whom we are calling "cavemen". Everyone knows is those few thousand nutcases that, like you probably saw today on TV, disrupted both the downtown & blocked the port of Miami from 1:00 to 5:00 PM. They also blocked many other streets in south Florida. Some 100+ have been arrested for civil disobidience. Last night, they blocked access to MIA, & according to the local news, many foreign tourists misssed their night flights to Latin America. So, if you defend that kind of behavior, then I DO disagree with you.
What do immigrants have to do with this? Did I say anything about the Cubans leaving the U.S.A...NO. I just gave people here a caution of what they can expect down here.
Just so you know My father's family came from Liguria, northern Italy, & settled in New Jersey. My mother's family came from Catalonia, Spain & the Tyrol region of Austria & settled in Argentina, & both did find a better life in both of those great nations. The cubans have also, work hard, that is way they are so succesfull in Miami today, so they deserve everyones respect for that. I DO NOT respect those people who want to disrupt the lives of millions of others.
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RE: To Ben88 & AmtrakGuy

Fri Jan 07, 2000 11:16 am

The only reason why I critisized you was because you blanket lableled an entire ethnic group. My point was simply that you should be careful before you say things that can be potentially offensive. I hope this is the last thread to this post, its been discussed two-fold.
 
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I Never Asked For Replies To This Post...

Fri Jan 07, 2000 11:19 am

OK?
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I Support You! Derico

Fri Jan 07, 2000 12:40 pm

Hello Derico!!


Thanks for the info,

First of all, for anyone thinking that these news have nothing to do with this site, you are totally wrong!!

There are many photographers and aviation enthusiast that like Miami International because it offers great planes that do not visit other parts of the country. 2nd of all, Miami is the the number 1 stratgic gateway to Latin America!!!!!!!

This massive shut down will not only affect Miami but also the rest of latin America.

I am proud to say that I am an American of Hispanic background but I trully denounce these tactics by these crude, hardheaded people. Why do they insist on making any little thing a political agenda. International laws state that a child has all rights to be with his parents. It has nothing to do with Cuba, or Castro.

I trully understand what this child went through, If you stop and think for a moment that he watched his mother drown to death and after that he endured 2 days without any water and food while clinging to life.
My heart goes out to him. But I think that all these people trully understand is that he now needs to love and affection of his father. Because if he does not receive a normal parents nurture, then he could suffer the consequences in the future.

This little boy should not have to be a political symbol by the one's that really claim to be his people.
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Fri Jan 07, 2000 12:48 pm

Just another comment from someone who lived in south Florida for 8 years and still visits: The boy should be home in Cuba with his father. The Cuban Nationals are a very outspoken and passionate group in Miami but they have no right to disrupt life for Floridians and incite violence & riots. Washington did the right thing - sending the boy home. The problem is the Cuban community using anything they can find, such as this incident, to ignite anti-Castro & anti-Cuba sentiment. The Cubans need to do something, take ACTION, to take back their homeland and freedom. If that means violence against Castro or Cuba's forces, or the loss of some of their lives, then thats what it will be. These constant protests help no one.

Castro is a dinosaur. Communism doesn't work. Those people have no freedom and lead horribly impoverished lives. But we (USA) cant be expected to overthrow Castro. Those who want freedom for their homeland must make a stand for themselves. It has been all over the world.

People travelling to or through Florida's airports must be on guard for possible terrorist acts.

O.K. enought said. Can we get back to aviation here?
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Thanks!

Sat Jan 08, 2000 2:38 am

man, great! just in time for the MIA slide show on the 15th!....if they screw that up for us, im gonna run amuck with a chainsaw....lol...j/k

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Update

Sat Jan 08, 2000 4:15 am

Let me clear up a thing or two. Even as militant as those small Cuban protestors & their polititians may be, the police would never allow them just to go & protest on the runways of MIA, no way, Jose  . Most Cubans in fact are opposed to these demonstrations. FLL (Ft Lauderdale) will be fine, so if you fly there, there should be no problems. There has been a protest in West Palm Beach, but not in the airport. Don't expect anything there, either.
Now, as for Miami International Airport, I have been told by my very good Cuban friend, (who was completely right about where the first demonstrations took place, i.e the port, just like I informed you) that MIA will be affected this Monday, JANUARY 10, by a protest. He doesn't know exactly at what time or what this will involve, but I think it will be a slowdown or blockeage of traffic to & from the airport. They might drive very slowly, 5 mph, through the airport, or block the access & or the connecting streets, for a few minutes, although it could last for half an hour. So this Monday, don't worry if you are caught in this, or if your ride is late, they'll get there eventually, just a little late. There won't be a massive shutdown or nothing like that. That's it. Just relax & don't change your plans.
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Sat Jan 08, 2000 5:31 am

as derico said it is the same moronic ancient old domino park playing idiots that are causing all of this they will not pull this off at mia miami-dade police unlike the miami police will not tolerate it.boy its times like this i wished i lived somewhere else
 
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What Does This Have To Do With Aviation?

Sat Jan 08, 2000 6:24 am

I was just wondering what the heck this has to do with aviation...if you would like to post something like this go to Yahoo and find the appropriate forum, NOT a forum about AIRLINES and AIRPLANES. Just one of those topics that we have been talking about lately. I agree with Ben88 and HZ-AKF.
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Sat Jan 08, 2000 8:40 am

On TV, I saw some few Cuban be runover by a car!! I think they would make people more mad if they close the airport in Miami. Most Cubans are good, they should not be all treated the same or insulted. But some are very crazy, yes...
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Sat Jan 08, 2000 9:15 am

I think you're overreacting Derico. 1 million Cubans will not go and block MIA, FLL, and PBI. Please keep in mind that it is only a small population that plans a demonstration. And even if they wanted to block the South Florida airports, THAT IS ILLEGAL and the reserves could be called in to prevent that. But, I can assure you, it will not happen in the first place.

Take this from someone who lives in Ft. Lauderdale.
 
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FirstClass!

Sat Jan 08, 2000 9:23 am

Did you read my threads, FirstClass!? Did I say 1 million Cubans are taking over MIA, NO!!!!!! I said those 1000 usual suspects might. I'm sick & tired of people putting words in my mouth...PLEASE READ MY POSTS BEFORE SAYING ANYTHING ELSE! I would be thankful for that.
Don't take it personaly FirstClass!. I'm just tired of having to keep posting corrections because people misunderstand or do not read what I said in the first place....
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Sat Jan 08, 2000 9:26 am

derico did not say the 1 million cubans will do this he said the 1 million cubans represents the group who are not acting like babies throwing a tantrum.this whole thing is not about the kid it is about fidel and the groups of cubans who do not like fidel.if ins was smart they would have sent this kid the day they decided for him to go back instead of giving these idiotic jerks time to disrupt things until the 14th
 
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RE: A Caution To Travellers Coming To South FLA

Sat Jan 08, 2000 10:02 am

I have to agree, this line has really gone astray from travelling and aviation. Now we're getting into politics, which is definitely NOT what we are here for.

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Derico
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From The Creator Of This Mess...

Sun Jan 09, 2000 5:46 am

I agree. I DID NOT want to talk politics, I didn't in my first post...only posted info that I had on possible problems at MIA; speaking of MIA, the protests are now temporarily CALLED OFF, because of new developments favoring the Cuban exiles.
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Derico

Sun Jan 09, 2000 8:19 am

You're right; I misunderstood your post. Seriously though, I thought you said 1 million. However, I am glad things are going better for the Cubans.

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