IndianGuy
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Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:27 pm

The ToI is reporing that AI ground staff are going on strike from Tuesday. This will throw AI's schedules ex-DEL completely out of gear. It will also affect other airlines like EK, MH, VS and others using AI at DEL.

Comment: ANother reason why the GoI must bring up Open Skies-2 and allow private airlines (and IC) to operate internationally.

AI has become the most unprofessional airline in South Asia, and as the recent decision to order Boeing 737's has shown, has also become a haven for corrupt officials.

Spare the Indian public all this bakwaas and Let IC,9W and S2 fly worldwide.

-Roy
 
LFutia
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:49 pm

Well said about IC and 9W and S2. One day... I would like to see 9W expand their services and fly to AMS or LHR and continue on to North America. They provide such excellent service. I reccommend everyone to fly Jet Airways!!

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B747-437B
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:00 pm

Actually, I support this strike completely.

The Civil Aviation ministry, for some unfathomable reason, has announced intention to revoke Air India's license to provide security screening services at DEL airport's international terminal. Instead, they have handed responsibility for that function to Indian Airlines, who don't even operate in that terminal.

This is a completely arbitrary decision that came out of the blue. Since IC is not an approved security agency and has never conducted international screening, they first have to get certified before they can be allowed to move in. Air India security in DEL is ISO 9002 certified and provides services to pretty much every single international airline at Delhi because quite simply, it is the best at what it does.

In all probability, this issue will be sorted out on Monday with the ministry reversing their decision.
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
LFutia
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:04 pm

So that's why when we got our bags screened on Nov 2, 2003, we had "Security Checked by Indian Airlines" stickers.... hehe

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Leskova
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:06 pm

Replacing someone who's ISO9002 certified with someone who's not certified at all? Doesn't sound like a smart decision, but after all, it wasn't for an important area...

... oh, wait - this was for Security Screening! The government of India has to either have a damn good reason for this, or it has to be absolutely, completely and more that 100% nuts!
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B747-437B
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:20 pm

The government of India has to either have a damn good reason for this, or it has to be absolutely, completely and more that 100% nuts!

The sad truth is that the latter option is more than likely the correct one!
"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
mandala499
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:57 pm

Leskova & B747-437B,
On a humourous note... With the govt. making decisions like this, Airbus didn't need to bribe anyone to get their orders ! J/K (we need to tell this to someone who's still going on and on about it in that thread)...

On another semi-humourous note... I thought the strike was going to be because of the A340/738 order ! J/K

On a serious note...
What the hell is the government playing at ? This is ridiculous ! It's just like giving the pilot's job to unlicensed persons !

Does the government have a good reason? Does the government have have any idea? Or is the government completely crazy?

Now, I am beginning to agree with B747-437B here that "the first question" is definitely unanswerable ! Big grin

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Leskova
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:29 pm

Mandala499, I just almost fell of my couch laughing at that first one...  Laugh out loud

... the second possibility would probably have been primarily started by one or two members of a.net...  Big grin

... well, and to the third point... well, I've made my opinion clear in my previous post... really does seem very strange.
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B747-437B
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:48 am

In all probability, this issue will be sorted out on Monday with the ministry reversing their decision.

Not to say that I told ya so, but......


The Air-India Employees’ Guild has decided not to go ahead with its proposed strike tomorrow. The strike had been called to protest against the government’s decision to have a single security agency for baggage clearance. The guild today signed a conciliation procedure, along with the Air-India management, before the Labour Commissioner.

http://www.business-standard.com/today/story.asp?Menu=19&story=27634

"The A340-300 may boast a long range, but the A340 is underpowered" -- Robert Milton, CEO - Air Canada
 
DeltaSFO
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:02 am

AI has become the most unprofessional airline in South Asia, and as the recent decision to order Boeing 737's has shown, has also become a haven for corrupt officials.

Actually, if anything, the A340 order shows that, since their technical committee endorsed the B777.

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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:23 am

I have suffered of a strike many years ago with AI as I was flying with my family from southern India to Europe. I have decided since many years not to fly anymore with an Airliner who is likely to go on strike. For me this lack of respect for passengers, who have booked and paid for a flight, is as much unreliable as a poor safety record. Sad

Cheers. Kilavoud.
 
Leskova
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:29 am

B747-437B, you win...  Big grin

Now, I don't know too much about aviation in India, but is (including the fuss around the IC aircraft order, now followed by the fuss about the AI order, only to be followed by this fuss about who does the security checks) this really indicative of how things are done in India? Must be annoying to have to work in the airline industry there...

DeltaSFO, please - all other posters kept that specific part of Roy's original post out of their responses - for good reason... let's not turn this into another 737/320 and/or 777/340 discussion... there already is one going on - and they're still going at it after 175 posts - in another thread...
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Vimanav
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:42 am

Hey don't lose your shirt guys... they've called off the strike.

Personally -437B, I do not support any strikes especially by a high profile industry like aviation and airline business. They can go and shoot the baboos who run the industry as a sign of protest, but a strike, nyet nyet... I don't endorse. (just my 5 paisa bit!!!).

rgds//Vimanav
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mandala499
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:17 am

Damn ! I've lost my bet ! AGAIN ! I'm never going to bet anything on any Air India events again ! LOL

Just kidding guys!

Mandala499
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RE: Not Again! AI Staff To Go On Strike

Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:09 pm

AI and IC have reached agreement to share security functions at DEL and BOM airports. Indian Airlines will have responsibility for all security functions at Delhi airport, utilizing the existing Air India personnel and equipment - whereas AI will take over IC's security functions at Mumbai airport - again utilizing IC's personnel and equipment.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?msid=290756
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