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Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:25 pm

Not sure how many of you are terribly interested in this news from the Kingdom of Bhutan  Smile. Anyway here is an artist impression of A319 in Druk's colors so am posting this. News is almost one month old.

BTW the article claims BAe 146 is expected to fetch just $2 million - sounds a good deal to me! Or is it a typo?



Link to the article http://www.kuenselonline.com/article.php?sid=3377

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:51 pm

I recently got the Justplanes video on Druk Air (an older video), the scenery in Bhutan is really spectacular and the approach into Paro very challenging. In Boeing's Aero magazine there was an article on the 737 demo flight. With the bigger twinjets, it must be even more difficult than with the BAe.

Bhutan has been very restrictive on tourism, and Druk Air is the only scheduled airline into the country, so with the extra seats (their BAe 146-100 only have 71 seats), they can increase tourism by almost 100%!

I heard Druk Air is considering to keep one BAe as a freighter.

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:45 am

Roy, don't you contradict yourself when you first say the A319 is the best aircraft for Druk Air (or was that ironic) and then you say that bribes must have been involved. Why would Airbus need to bribe to see the best choice?
Maybe Bhutan isn't as corrupt as its neighbours.
Even though it's a small deal, it has some importance due to the operating environment, so I'm sure both A and B made good offers, but I wouldn't call them bribes.
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:51 am

Konstantin, Roy actually meant the whole thing the other way around - he was serious about the A319 beingthe best aircraft for Druk Air, he was not serious about the bribery part... if you want to know, where those arguements came from, just have a look at the Air India Selects 10 A340-300 And 18 B737-800 thread - or at what it has turned into...

P.S.: You've probably guessed it - that thread has turned into an A vs. B thread...
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:58 am

Why is the A319 the best aircraft for Druk Air's routes? Are these not just replacement orders for the Avro RJX's they ordered before the RJX program was cancelled? If so, then the RJX must surely have been the best aircraft for their needs.
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:02 am

Leskova,
At least that thread turned into quite a reasonable one Big grin

My guess is the 319 wins on the range more than runway performance? *where do Druk Air fly?... HELP*

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:09 am

Druk Air flies:
Paro - Kathmandu - Delhi
Paro - Dhaka - Yangon - Bangkok
Paro - Kolkatta (Calcutta) - Bangkok
don't see the range being any issue here

By the way, any great (i.e. detailed) Paro / Bhutan add-ons for FS2004?
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:11 am

*where do Druk Air fly?... HELP*

PBH-KTM-DEL
PBH-CCU-BKK
PBH-DAC-RGN-BKK

and new service launching this week

PBH-GAY
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:22 am

Capital146, OK, let me rephrase that (or rephrase what Roy said): the A319 is the best available aircraft for Druk Air.

Mandala499, with the possible exception of some of the bickering still going on at the moment, I'm inclined to fully agree with you about the AI thread...  Big grin
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:41 am

In the words of Druk Air chief on their decision to go for Airbus: While the main competitor, Boeing, had also conducted a two-week test and demonstration of the Boeing 737-700 in March this year, the management recommended the Airbus A319. Although Boeing and Airbus are similar in terms of technology and safety, we found that Airbus had a better technical performance, Sangay Khandu said. While operating out of Paro, the Airbus A319 has a lower load penalty and can carry three tonnes more than the Boeing 737-700. Druk Airís managing director said that the Airbus A319 was also cheaper than the Boeing 737-700.

Cargo is critical for Bhutan since they import pretty much everything from salt to cement from outside.

Regarding my original question: Does $2 million sound right as value of BAe 146? Anyone know?

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:46 am

Does $2 million sound right as value of BAe 146? Anyone know?

Druk's BAe146's are the ancient -100 models that have seen plenty of rough use. I'm surprised anyone is willing to pay even that much for them. It's hardly a booming market for secondhand airplanes right now.
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:56 am

Any chance they will be flying those A319 by December. I will be flying Druk Air in late December and would be great to use the new a/c.

Konstantin:
Thanks for the pics. I had looked for pics about Druk Air or Paro aiport unsuccesfuly.

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:23 pm

Pzurita1, first A319 is arriving only in Oct 2004.

For some more photos of Paro Airport and Druk Air, including in-flight photos, visit the site below. Note the elaborate art work inside the airport! Click Forward arrow to keep viewing other pics.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/33798405/33799524vDWBtr

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:46 pm

"A319 is the best AVAILABLE aircraft for Druk Air"

Available: = within the price, operational limitations, and DELIVERY SLOTS Big grin

Cargo is critical for Bhutan... importing salt? *I'd love to see the corrosion checks Big grin*

Does 2M sound right for a BAe146 ?
If selling a 747-200 for $2m is hard enough, a BAe146 ? Well, it may be comparing peas to watermelons, but you know what I mean  Big grin Right B747-437B ? Big grin

When will these be delivered ?

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:50 pm

Well, it may be comparing peas to watermelons, but you know what I mean Right B747-437B ?

I'd pay more for some fresh peas than I would for the rotten watermelons you are talking about!  Big grin
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:59 pm

B747-437B...
LOL ! Well, I'd go along with that one! Hey... not all of the watermelons I talked about is rotten! Only one out of the 4! However, I'm looking for some cargo peas !

Anyone want a 20T banana flyer? Big grin

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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:06 am

Gamps:
Thank you for the links to your pics!!!
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RE: Druk Air Signs Agreement To Buy 2xA319

Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:21 pm

I have heard Druk Air's BAe 146s are fatigued immensely.

Infact, I think one of them was sent to Woodford a few years ago to be repaired to do severe metal corrosion?

The BAe 146 is one hell of a work horse. But in the case of Druk Air, they have been maxed out almost. Like B747-437B said, they are old -100s and they have taken a huge beating.

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