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Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:19 am

Well It's it's only taken 2+ decades, but Boston Logan (BOS) can finally build the another runway that will hopefully remove some of the congestion the field is known for: http://www.whdh.com/news/articles/local/A29474/
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:24 am

Interesting...how long will it be? Will it be limited to RJs? It definitely looks small in comparison (well according to that image on the site) to the other runways.

Anyways, always provide an active link!!!

http://www.whdh.com/news/articles/local/A29474/
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:27 am

It's tiny (about 5000'), and can only be used when the wind is blowing in a certain direction, on Tuesdays, in years that end in 9, and only by captains that are Libras. That said, hell must have frozen over because I thought I'd never see any kind of runway development in BOS.
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:36 am

That looks like perhaps the most useless runway in the USA's largest airports. Worse than 8-26 at PHL.

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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:50 am

Useless? Hardly. Under virtually all wind conditions, most turbo props would normally have little difficulty getting on the new runway. On windy days, 5000ft is enough for even light Boeing/Airbus models. Also significant is that BOS' biggest operator in terms of movements is Cape Air, using Cessna 402s. Those would have no problem at all using 5000ft, and it would free up slots on longer runways.
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:20 am

Now Boston Mayor Menino can practice speaking out of both sides of his mouth again: He'll rant and rave and complain about the new runway while imploring tourists to come to 'his' city and attend the new (already over-budget and a white-elephant) convention center.
 
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:46 am

This is great news, hopefully it will help all those delays...Does anyone know when construction will begin and when it will be completed? (God will the construction in Boston ever STOP!!!!!)

Also, a little off topic, does anyone know what's up with the small 2000'+ runway 15L/33R...Was this a runway that was never finished and if so, why not?...And why is there no talk about expanding this runway?
 
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:15 pm

Useless! No! As the above posts have said, many small carriers use BOS, and these regional operators will greatly benefit from this new runway. I do agree that a longer runway would help all carriers using BOS, but as usual, there had to be a compromise. That is the problem. Lots of time and money wasted for what....
 
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:31 pm

Excellant! Massport has been waiting decades for this one! With all of BOS's commuter traffic, this will ease congestion quite a bit.

Btw, I agree with ChrisNH about Mayor Tom "mumbly" Menino, he has got to be one of the stupidest major city mayors in the country IMO.

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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:35 pm

About damn time! I honestly don't understand why people in the surrounding communities are upset about shifting more approaches over the harbor, instead of over residential neighborhoods. Now I live 2 miles from Hanscom Field (one of the alternative suggestions), and frankly, I'd love to see some commercial activity out of there (though I'm in the tiny minority on that one, I know). But Logan has needed another runway for way too long. One question though is why didn't they design this runway to be parallel to the 15/33s? Would it conflict with existing taxiways, buildings, or the harbor? Also, it is my understanding that this runway is only to be used for landings to the NW, and takeoffs to the SE (which don't happen frequently at all).
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If you look at an overhead picture or map of Logan, there are small clues that it was originally conceived to have 3 sets of parallel runways, which would be the 4/22 (already exist), 15/33, and 9/27 sets. These "clues" are such things as what seems to be a 150 ft taxiway that lines up with where a runway would be - don't know how realistic it is though. May be my imagination.
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:15 pm

Will it cost $14 billion like the Big Dig?
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:41 pm

Well, it's more-or-less parallel to the 15-33's (though 15L-33R is so short as to be essentially useless), even the new runway is planned to be 14-32. Basically, it's going into the only available space on the airfield -- there's no way that Massport would get approval to fill any of the tidal flats closer to Winthrop, and building the new runway anywhere else on the property would require demolishing much of the terminal complex (not that this would be a bad thing...)

It'd be nice if they had the stones to build it to 6500-7000 feet so that it'd actually be more useful...but this is Massachusetts *sigh*
 
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:49 pm

congrats to BOS!!! Perhaps theres hope for LAX.
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:07 pm

I've landed several times with Beech 1900's on 33R. When the wind really blows right down the pipe it's not too difficult, but you gotta set it down on the numbers. Still, it's preferable to take the longer runway but when approach tells you that the final for 33L is 35 miles long, and you have 9 more legs to do that day, 33R sounds a lot better. The funny thing was that we had takeoff data for that runway, with authorization only for temperatures well below zero, and with a max takeoff weight of ZFW plus maybe 300 pounds.
 
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RE: Logan Finally Gets Green Light For New Runway

Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:19 pm

*Getting slightly off subject* what attracted me to this story was that in the promo on TV, it showed a DL L-1011 landing, I had the sound off so I didn't know what it was about.

I just got around to looking at the video that can be view from my included link above, and I started laughing when I that it contained footage of a TWO jet, BEX planes, and a US 727. Man do I love stock footage. *OK back on subject*
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