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Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:41 am

Which airline is the largest privately held airline in the US? I believe Air Wisconsin is, but others say Spirit is, I do not know.

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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:45 am

It is Miramar, Florida-based Spirit Airlines.
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:20 am

Of course, it is for Spirit Airlines at the based in Miramar, FL near of Hollywood, FL. How is NK was doing out of FLL and you guys know about exactly begin nonstop from FLL-CUN is coming soon in the month of Dec. 11, 2003. I still wish hope how is their load factors was doing. Well, talk ya later!  Smile
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:11 pm

In terms of fleet size, I'd have to say that Air Wisconsin is larger than Spirit.... but revenue, I believe NK has it hands down.

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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:12 pm

How big is Air Wisconsin???
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:18 pm

AWAC: RPMs 1.593 Bil
ASMs 2.3 Bil
$443 mil revenue.

Probably larger than Spirit...
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:29 pm

Being privately held, Spirit doesn't have to release their financial information, and they don't. But based on the number of flights and type of aircraft they operate, however, we should be able to deduce their approximate revenues.

Anyone care to make an educated guess? Like in grade school arithmetic class, please show your work if you do make an estimate.
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:54 pm

Well, if you check Spirit's website (fact sheet), they clearly state that they are the largest privately held airline. Of course, we all know you can't always believe everything you read on the net, but perhaps this one is correct?

Spirit Airlines Fact Sheet Link!
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:12 pm

Maybe Aloha Airlines would give Spirit a run for their money, esp. with the latest expansion to the mainland.
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:29 pm

For Aloha:
Employees: 3,459 as of July 31, 2003
Revenue Passengers Enplaned in 2002: 4.4 million
Freight Pounds Carried in 2002: 128.4 million
Fleet: 10 B737-700, 10 B737-200, 4 B737-200QCs
Destinations Served: ITO, HNL, KOA, OGG, LIH, BUR, LAS, OAK, SNA, PHX, RNO, SMF, YVR, RAR, PPG, MAJ, KWA, JON, CXI
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:39 pm

Aloha has more employees but less aircraft. Hmmm....I'd still guess Spirit.
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:42 am

Based upon 2002 figures for YTD October, Aloha is acutally larger by Passengers Enplaned, Freight Pounds Carried, and offers more flights per day than Spirit.

Spirit could be larger based on RPM and ASM since AQ's interisland flights are relatively short in duration. Also, Spirit has 6 more aircraft than AQ.


These figures also do not count Island Air, the other airline owned by Aloha Air Group.
 
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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:22 am

I was looking up AWAC and found this, published Oct. 03'. So I really dunno who is right, Spirit, or AWAC

"Growing By a Factor of Four"

Appleton - When Geoffrey Crowley became president and chief executive officer of Air Wisconsin, the airline had about a dozen cities on its route map, including Appleton, Oshkosh, Madison and Milwaukee.

Fast forward 10 years: Air Wisconsin now serves 58 cities in 26 states and two Canadian provinces. It is the largest privately held airline in the United States, according to the Regional Airline Association, and its monthly revenue passenger miles have surpassed Midwest Airlines.

For the first nine months of 2003, Air Wisconsin carried 1.1 million more passengers compared with the same period a year earlier. The airline's fleet has increased from 17 planes only six years ago to 72 jets, with about 15 more on order for 2004." - The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Oct. 03'


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RE: Largest Privately Held Airline In US..

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:58 am

It all depends on how you want it to be. AWAC is the largest in # of a/c, ASM's and I would guess revenue. (since we don't truely know with it in private hands) AWAC is also growing as ACA retreats from the UA contract too. However when you are talking about Independent carriers, I personally give NK the edge over Aloha
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