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AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:35 am

I heard a rumor on this message board that AA will be replacing their F100's w/ S80's at MDW in the upcoming future. I was just curious to see if this was true. If so, when will the S80's be operating at MDW?
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:37 am

It's old news that AA is completely phasing out its F100s. I would assume that MD-80s or CRJs will be replacing them everywhere; I think the goal is to have this done by the end of 2004, but I am not certain of this time frame.
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:42 am

Starting in Jan. I think the MDW-LGA route will go to ERJs and SP80s.
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:45 am

Does anyone know about the MDW-DFW route?
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:38 am



It appears AA.com I found list in Feb schedules. They are going to have all MD-80 and bye bye Fokker 100. Great news for AA.

Big777jet

Here:


AMERICAN AIRLINES
2393 MDW Chicago 02/13/2004 08:01 AM DFW Dallas/ Fort Worth 02/13/2004 10:34 AM S80 90% 797





AMERICAN AIRLINES
1131 MDW Chicago 02/13/2004 10:00 AM DFW Dallas/ Fort Worth 02/13/2004 12:33 PM S80 90% 797





AMERICAN AIRLINES
1477 MDW Chicago 02/13/2004 02:27 PM DFW Dallas/ Fort Worth 02/13/2004 04:59 PM S80 N/A 797





AMERICAN AIRLINES
1419 MDW Chicago 02/13/2004 06:29 PM DFW Dallas/ Fort Worth 02/13/2004 08:59 PM S80 90% 797





AMERICAN AIRLINES
556 MDW Chicago 02/13/2004 01:15 PM LGA New York 02/13/2004 04:12 PM S80 90% 725


 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:50 am

All F100's will be out of DFW by the beginning of Jan.
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:53 am

All F100's will be out of DFW by the beginning of Jan.

Which means all F100s will be based out of ORD for the remainder of their retirement phase.
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:28 am

Thanks fellas

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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:54 am

I checked AA's schedule. The first day of operation for the S80's at MDW will be January 6th. I guess I answered my own question. Sorry!
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:44 am

I heard from a F100 crew member that the Fokker will be used up to March, 2004.
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:29 am

Really? I thought the retirement date for the F100's was later in 2004 around September.
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:16 am

The crew member told me that "All Fokker" aircraft at AA will be gone by March, 2004. He could be wrong.
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:39 am

Sorry, he's wrong....

Final retirement is in September 2004
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:18 am

Please forgive my ignorance. Why is everyone happy the Fokker 100s are going to be replaced? Are they bad aircraft?
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:32 pm

This is great news! Yes the Fokker 100 is a really good aircraft and excellent regional in my opinion but, The MD-80 at MDW i cant wait!!!  Smile
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:18 pm

Yes, all DFW-MDW-DFW trips will be M80 beginning January 6th with the exception of the first morning originator that will still be a F-100 on January 6th only.
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:00 pm

Cool MD80s flying into MDW. That will be a nice to see an MD80 break the pattern of all 737s and 757s flying in. I like it when I see the Airtran 717 or A320s for NW and A319 of Fronteir.
 
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:20 pm

Bad news to see the Fokkers gone.
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RE: AA S80s To Replace F100s At MDW?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:27 pm

I'm a little surprised that AA will be using the Embrears on MDW-LGA, but it could be that there aren't enough MD-80s to go around, and there are routes that are better able to fill the MD-80s.

As for why AA is retiring the Fokker, there are several reasons.

Although the plane is very reliable, mechanics don't like to work on them. They just are not as easy to service and repair as Boeings, the A300s, and the MD-80s. Also, since Fokker went bankrupt, parts and customer support have been very difficult.

Scheduling hates them, because their MLW is low compared to their MTOW. The Fokkers were bought with the plan to fly short routes like ORD-MKE and DFW-AUS. Instead, they wound up flying routes like ORD-SAT and DFW-ATL.

Some flight attendants aren't fond of the plane, because there is no rear hatch or stairs, unlike the MD-80 and 727. And since it seats less than 100 passengers, AA only puts 2 F/As aboard. So one F/A has to work the coach section alone. On a full plane, that's 79 passengers to serve drinks. With 2 F/As on a MD-80, 2 F/As spilt 115 coach passengers.

The plane does have its good points. The pilots love flying the Fokker, and it's incredibly fuel efficient. Before MRTC, if the plane had 35 to 40 passengers with a decent revennue yield, it broke even. So, a plane that was half full made a good profit, and a full plane made an incredible amount of money.