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What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:43 am

I have a book that says that F-BVGA is the first Airbus in commercial service.


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Is it still in service? If not, what is the oldest Airbus still in service?

BTW: the book I have states that only 21 firms orders with 17 additional options for the Airbus had been had at the time of publication. An old book indeed. How times have changed.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:54 am

F-BUAD is the oldest still around, she was line #3, 1 and 2 have been broken-up.


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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:09 am

OK, thanks

Anyone know what is the oldest still in rev service?
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:38 am

CanadianNorth, nah, it's not a coinkidink. There were far more Boeings sold 20 and 30 years ago. If you look at the older Airbuses, namely the A300's and A310's, they are finding lots of interest from cargo operators.

But in general, I am curious if the A320 for instance will live as long as a DC-9 or a 737, and if it will maintain a decent level of reliability.
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:52 am

Looks like the oldest A300 still in commercial service is c/n 19 former F-BVGG (the survivor of Entebbe hijack) now a freighter TC-MNA running for MNG cargo airlines.
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:00 am

Now there is an aircraft with a history.

When was F-BVGG put in service?


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Does anybody know the oldest Airbus still in passenger service? Especially with a major network?
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:37 am

Looks like VT-EDY of Indian Airways is the oldest still in regular scheduled passenger service, line number 59.

F-BVGG was delivered on 11/16/75. I am sure it entered service a few days after that.
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:09 am

Anyone remember the first 4 A300s with Eastern Airlines? They were the first Airbuses to be registered in the USA. I wondered what happened to those 4 airframes. What I remember the most at that time is the fanfare the aircraft caused. It was an exciting time then, having 'only' Boeing, Douglas & Lockheed. At that moment, Airbus Industries became a major player...and hasn't looked back since.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:06 pm

VT-EDY - As of November 2003, The oldest passenger Airbus!! (only photo in the database, all you shutterbugs out there.)


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That was an amazing time back then. 4 companies producing widebodies, jumbo-jets they were called then. Also, Concorde and the Tu-144 were catching everyone's attention.

Man was still going to the moon but with the Apollo missions ending, NASA was testing a reusable "space aircraft," the shuttle.

I excited about the A-380 and the B7E7, but when you look back, the 1970's really rock for the aviation industry.

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Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:10 pm

NW has some A333 manufactured a couple months ago:


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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:20 pm

IP:

I guess those would be some of the oldest A-330's in service with NWA?  Laugh out loud
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:49 pm

Eastern Airlines A-300's


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The first Airbuses in service with a U.S. carrier. (That's correct, right!?!)

[edit] - after rereading FlagshipAZ post, I see that is correct.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:00 pm

I had read recently that Western had actually ordered some A300's well before Eastern but cancelled the order shortly thereafter, never taking delivery. Anyone with more info?
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:08 pm

Here is the first original A300, the A300B1, no longer in existence:

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#2 was broken up just recently. It was being used for training by the Brussels Airport firebrigade as you can see below:

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Then in July, they turned it into this:

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Please keep in mind that these first 2 aircraft were A300B1's. The only A300B1's ever built and they were unique. They were about 9 feet shorter than any other A300.

The first A300B1 was scrapped a long time ago, just a few years after it was built since it was only a prototype. The last one is now gone too. History has been erased.

Quite sad....the last bird should have been preserved.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:10 pm

Hello

If this were an Airbus, it would be the olderst one flying commercaily.


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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:24 pm

SAA's A300's were seriously old - I know SA doesn't have them any more, were they sold or scrapped ?
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:24 pm

How could someone break up the first line number of the A-300? I know that Boeing has the original 747 and has given it to a museum.

The first A-300 was quite an acomplishment for Airbus. I just don't get it.


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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:43 pm

I guess that, maybe aside from some accountants, you won't find anyone around who'll actually understand the reasoning behind having the first A300 broken up and not preserved...  Sad
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:54 pm

I hear ya, Leskova. I was quite sad when the first DC-8, DC-9, DC-10 & L-1011 were scrapped. Funny how all of Boeing's first airplanes are still around, but not anyone elses first airframes. I find it particular that just before Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas...the first 3 DC jetliners were still in existance. Now they're gone. Regards.
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:56 pm

The port wing with the gear still attatched is on display inside the Deutsches Museum in Munich, Germany.
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:00 am

SAA's A300's were seriously old - I know SA doesn't have them any more, were they sold or scrapped ?

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:54 am

VT-EDY - As of November 2003, The oldest passenger Airbus!!

The former VT-EDY has been out of service for well over a year now and is currently parked at the IC technical base at BOM with engines removed, interiors stripped and titles painted out. The registration was also cancelled in mid-2002 and she is ready for scrapping.
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:47 am

Oh, no. Well, that kills that!!

Bye, VT-EDY.

So, the question is still, what is the oldest Airbus still in passenger service!
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Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:48 am

That pic of the only production A300 B1 being demolished makes me sick. Does Airbus have no sense of history?
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:09 am

I have a hard time understanding why Airbus didn't preserve one of the two A300B1s. The first of so many great aircraft should be proudly on display at the Airbus main plant, not be part of a scrap metal heap! Oh well.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:21 am

"...Man was still going to the moon but with the Apollo missions ending"


In 1978? No, actually Apollo 17 returned to Earth on 12-19-1972.

 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:33 am

Rkmcswain:

"In 1978? No, actually Apollo 17 returned to Earth on 12-19-1972."

Huh?

I said the 1970's rocked, both 1972 and 1978 are in the 1970's  Big thumbs up
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:41 am

But maybe they learned from it, as the first A320 and the first A340 are still owned by Airbus - time will tell if they will be preserved in the future (still some years to go).
 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:50 am

what about that old A300 with Ariana?
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:09 am

I guess EP-MHE is actually the oldest still in pax service, line number 35!

She entered service in December of 1977.


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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:02 pm

OK then, EP-MHE it is.

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As of November 2003, EP-MHE, is the oldest Airbus in passenger service. It entered service in December of 1977 ship number 35 for Airbus. So, this Airbus is about to have its 26 birthday!!

Thanks Clickhappy!

I wonder if the folks at Mahan know that have got the oldest?
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:33 pm

Just to add to the post on IC's A300 fleet. They have only 4 A300s: VT-EFX, VT-EHC, VT-EHD, VT-EVD of which VT-EFX is the oldest (an A300B2, all the others are B4s) having been delivered in AUG 1980. If I recall it is no. 113 off the production line.

So it does look as if EP-MHE nee HS-THK (I've seen her often in CCU in the 80s and 90s) is the oldest flying A300.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:35 am

Sorry, I was reading from context. You said
The oldest passenger Airbus!!
...then posted a photo of an aircraft made in 1978, then said...
That was an amazing time back then.... Man was still going to the moon but with the Apollo missions ending...

...it guess when you look at it that way....

 
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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:39 am

That pic of the only production A300 B1 being demolished makes me sick. Does Airbus have no sense of history?

Be more disappointed at the Brussels Airport Fire Brigade who were the ones that destroyed it, not Airbus.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:44 am

Rkmcswain:

No problem, I can be mistake prone. Good that people are looking out for the correct facts.

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RE: What Is The Oldest Airbus Still In Service

Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:08 am

BA: I cant' believe that they destroyed OO-TEF !! This is amazing. There was an association created to save this plane. Cogema even donated two doors!!

http://users.skynet.be/savealine/

http://membres.lycos.fr/b1ootef/

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