BillElliott9
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UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:52 am

The top pic of yesterday was of a couple of UAL 7474s in the desert and part of the caption read ..."on the wings of N106UA it have a silver strip but not on N192UA wings, because N106UA is delivered to Northwest initially...."

Does anyone know the details? I didn't think NWA had ever gotten rid of any of its 7474s.

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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:54 am

N105 & 106UA are -451's . I read that the only differance was the color of jump seats.
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:14 am

Thanks United Fan. So 105 and 105 were delivered to NWA and then went to UAL. It is true....you learn something new every day!
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:30 am

they were painted in nwa colors but never were delivered----
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:40 am

Actually if you look closely at the 'top of yesterday' photo...one will see both 747-451s that were not delivered to Northwest. United bought these airframes on Boeing's tarmac in Everett when NW couldn't afford them at the time. They were to be NW's 15th & 16th -451s. Regards.
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:29 am

Kind of ironic.....NWA chose not to take them because they couldn't afford them and then UAL ended up in Chapter 11. (I know those two airplanes weren't the sole cause of the Chapter 11)

Thanks for all of the info.

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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:08 pm

Here's the photo that sparked the discussion. the -451 is at the top of the photo, the -422 is on the bottom.

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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:15 pm

There is something really horrible about seeing hundreds of millions of dollars of valuable aircraft being parked in the desert and stripped for parts. These aren't old worn out L1011's or aged 727's but 744s!

There is something really wrong in the airline marketplace that things like that are occuring.
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RE: Starrion...

Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:23 pm

As the younger generation says...


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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:31 pm

It's my understanding that NW would've accepted delivery of the aircraft should they had to pay Boeing cancellation fees, but UA agreed to pay at least full list price for the aircraft (B744 were at a premium back then) and thus NW avoided the penalties and deferred their order (the four outstanding aircraft were delivered in 1999).

[Edited 2003-11-25 06:34:21]
 
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:38 pm

Umm, Starrion....the aircrafts in question are not being stripped for parts. They're just merely parked (in storage) until the economic times improve for the airlines. I know of no 744 ever being scrapped. The few that were hull losses were salvaged for parts, but that's not the point. Regards.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:51 pm

As UA is returning their 744s to service and sending 777s to the desert in exchange what´s the current status? How many 744s are still parked, and how many 777s are now dumped (of cause only temporary)? And are there already a few that left for Thai Airways? They were supposed to receive 3 or so still this year!

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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:35 am

Any idea which ones are earmarked for Thai and which ones are for Corsair?
 
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:28 am

I've flown on the NW gone UA 744's. Besides a different color "pleather" on the jumpseats, the crew rest in back is different too. Our usual 744 has 6 bunks and 2 business class seats (which the senior f/a's love) but on the NW model it's just 8 bunks. It makes the "treehouse" seem larger though with more open space in the middle!
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:24 am

A sincere THANK YOU for all of the great input/comments!

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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:24 pm

..."and how many 777s are now dumped...."

At last check United had 4 Triple7s at GYR
777-222 N766UA
777-222/ER N205UA
777-222/ER N207UA
777-222/ER N208UA
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RE: UAL 747-400 N106UA

Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:10 pm

I guess I need to take a trip on up to Goodyear on Thursday. Remind me to buy film, clean the lenses and check the batteries. I haven't taken a picture of any sort in almost 4 years, maybe it's time to return to life.
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