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TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:46 pm


Hi, while looking at some pictures, I found this one. I was wondering if one of the pilots had to sit there for every landings?

Was the TU-134 a safe plane.

Thanks for your help

Nick



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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:52 pm

I do beleive that is the flight engineers station.
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:03 pm

Approximately 720 TU134s were built. There have been 54 recorded hull losses of which 29 had fatalities. Considering that these are Soviet era jets, a lot of crashes and details may not have come to light. The aircraft along with the TU154 were mainstays of Aeroflot during the Soviet days. Despite the fact that their hull loss ratios may not reflect favourably by Western standards, fact remains that the TU134 was a very popular aircraft which served the Soviet Union and its ally nations for over four decades.

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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:09 pm

It is the seat of the navigator. With more modern navigation coming up in the USSR, it was replaced by a radar in the later versions of the T134 (I believe from T134-A on)

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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:23 pm

Here, I have a trip report from the nose jumpseat:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/37644/

I thought that the Tu134s are comfortable for their size. I really like them.
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:44 pm

They are just like DC-9s to fly in. You really feel you are flying.
I loved my trip from Budapest to Warsaw and back on a Malev Tu-134.
 
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:02 am

The Tu-104, Tu-114, Tu-124 and early-production Tu-134's had that nose navigator's seating position because until the late 1960's, air navigation inside Soviet airspace did require visual fixes. But once the Soviets finally got more modern navaids later production Tu-134's deleted the glazed nose and replaced it with a weather radome.

It should be noted that glazed nose came from the Tu-16 bomber (this was the bombardier's seating position).
 
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:13 am

Wow that is interesting. Were the fixes fires?
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:26 am

I am pretty sure some of Aeroflot and Aeroflot Don's TU-134A's and 134A-3's still have the glass cockpit (sorry for the joke). Why are we talking about it as if it doesn't fly anymore. I was at Sheremetyevo 1 SVO yesterday and there were loads of them...
 
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:05 am

"a very popular aircraft which served the Soviet Union and its ally nations for over four decades." - actually, a bit less: the first commercial flight was on September (9th ?), 1967. The aircraft was Aeroflot workhorse along with Il18 mostly in 70's, before more Tu154s came. The first jet I ever flew on - I remember 4 hours 1 stop flight where a year before it was 8 hour 2 stops flight on Il18... My first trip abroad (Riga to Stockholm) was on Tu134 too - and it is the only Soviet built aircraft that I flew on more abroad than inside the former USSR! Was on it last time on Dec 29th, 1992, OK flight from Prague to Riga...
 
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:41 am

I saw glass-nosed Tu-134A's of Pulkovo this summer. Boy those are loud or maybe it was the fact that it was about 100 feet high when it passed over my head taking off. Tu-134A-3 I believe were the last ones with the glass nose. I know there was an A-variant without a glass nose but I might be mistaken Ill have to check. Bs have no glass nose.
 
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:05 am

Yes there is an A variant without the glass nose.

Aeroflot still has a couple 134s with the glass nose.

There ae many other Russian airlines with the glass nose.
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RE: TU 134 - Nose Cockpit

Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:18 am

Here is an A version without the nose glass:

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Here is an Aeroflot with the glass:

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I don't think I ve been on an Aeroflot Tu134 with the glass.
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