Dirkou
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Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:22 am

Hello

Simple question this time. I am about to do a round a world flight with Start Alliance between 5 Dec and 25 Dec. I don't know what stopovers to choose.

1- Depart and Arrive in Frankfurt
2- Has to be in any Start Alliance Airline
3- Maximum 5 stopovers
4- Has to have a Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific route
5- Direction must be from West to East

Thanks for any opinion/help!
 
FoxBravo
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:29 am

Wow, so many possibilities! That's a dilemma I'd like to have. Here's a suggestion that would take in some of my personal favorite destinations, and keep it to nonstops, which are generally more pleasant--especially given your limited period of time:

FRA-BKK (LH/TG)
BKK-NRT (TG/NH)
NRT-HNL (NH/UA)
HNL-SFO (UA)
SFO-JFK (UA)
JFK-FRA (LH/SQ)

Are there any places you'd particularly like to visit, or any that you've seen already and/or would rather avoid? That would help narrow things down a bit...
Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
 
desertjets
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:04 am

Are you planning stopovers or are you just flying all the way through.

If you are doing the latter I would suggest stopping in places where the stopovers and transfers would be of minimum hassel. SFO, HKG, SIN are all connecting points that come to mind that have nice modern facilities that are all interconnected.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
 
Dirkou
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:12 am

Thanks for both replies. I will do this mainly because of being aviation fanatic, so the more exotic airlines/flights the best (I will try to avoid European/US Airlines). Stopvovers are also of some interest.
I would love to go to India/Australia/NZ/Japan/Hawaii. The last flight has to be in LAX and then back to Europe. Not sure if this is possible. Also is it possible to start the flight in London with only Star Alliance Airlines?

Anyone of you did this before?
Thanks again.
 
FoxBravo
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:28 am

Yes, it should be possible to start and end in LHR with Star. How about this:

LHR-FRA-DEL (LH)
DEL-BKK-SYD (TG)
SYD-AKL (NZ)
AKL-NRT (NZ)
NRT-HNL (NH)
HNL-YVR-LHR (AC)

Returning via SFO on UA would be a better connection, but flying AC would avoid U.S. airlines, as you mentioned. Note that it will be hard to get from Europe to India on Star without taking a European airline, probably LH.
Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
 
BGR1962
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:36 am

Last November I did an around the world on SkyTeam. Went from BGR-BOS-JFK-INC-HGK-INC-BKK-CDG-BOS Ended having to drive back to BGR from BOS because of fog at home.

Had great flights on KE and AF, did some flights on Thai that weren't too bad either, BKK-HKT-BKK.



[Edited 2003-11-25 22:44:03]
 
Dirkou
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:45 am

Does Oneworld have Round the World Fares? And where can I find them for Skyteam? The cheapest solution with Star Alliance is aprox 2000 USD with stopovers. What about the others?
 
aviationfreak
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:34 am

Hey Dirkou,

How much flights can you make for that fare and is it including taxes?

But yes, Oneworld has the round the world fares too. I`m planning a round the world trip myself next year - also for the thrill of flying - and found out that Oneworld provides most flights for the best price. I would not choose Skyteam, If I`m well informed they are the most expensive one and TMHO most limited as it comes to the variety of airlines.

The rules are:
Europe, Middle East: max 4 stopovers;
Africa: max 4 stopovers;
Asia: max 4 stopovers;
South-America: max 4 stopovers;
North- and Central America, the Caribbean: max 6 stopovers
Australia, NZ, Pacific: max 4 stopovers

You have to make an Atlantic and a Pacific crossing. You can only travel in one direction.

Prices below are all Euro`s.
You can buy a Oneworld 3 explorer (3 means you can travel 3 continents including the one you start with) for 2000 economy / 4500 business. You can make max 15 flights.

Oneworld 4 is 2400 economy / 5000 business. max 20 flights.
Oneworld 5 is 2900 economy / 5600 business. max ?? flights.
Oneworld 6 is 3400 economy / 6400 business. max ?? flights.
(this are the fares for kick-off in the Netherlands. I checked this by a travel agent)

Can you believe it!! Planning is already fun!!

More information is here:

http://www.oneworld.com

http://www.qantas.com.au Here you find more fares.

After your trip, I would like to have you recommendations for sure?
I love both Airbus and Boeing as much as I love aviation!
 
v2fix
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:20 am

Or try http://www.thegreatescapade.com and fly with:

Singapore Airlines
Virgin Atlantic
Air New Zealand

Three uniquely individual airlines.
I managed to do : LHR-HKG-SIN-AKL-RAR-LAX-LHR with them.

[Edited 2003-11-26 19:26:04]
742; 744; DC10, DC3, 321, 320, 319, 170,190, 772, 773,333, 346, 343
 
aviationfreak
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:25 am

Hi V2fix,

Hope you don`t mind I ask. How much did you pay for it?
I love both Airbus and Boeing as much as I love aviation!
 
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:03 am

My advice,

Fly east to west and utilise the better Star Alliance airlines as much as possible like SQ, NZ, and TG.

In terms of your five stopovers and your need to fly west to east, I recommend the following:

FRA - Johannesburg (with LH)
Johannesburg becoming stop number 1 and you can use this as a base to visit the wildlife parks and other tourist treasures.

Johannesburg - SIN (with SQ)
And Singapore becomes stop 2. Use this as a base to visit immediate surrounds in Malaysia as well as all Singapore has to offer.

SIN - AKL (with SQ or NZ)
Auckland's a great stopover (stop 3) and New Zealand, being so concise, you'll easily and quickly be able to visit other parts like Queenstown, the wine regions etc

AKL - LAX (with NZ not UA)
Stop 4 (if you want to), the city of The Angels or

LAX - JFK (with UA)
Stop 4 (if you chose not LAX as stop 4) and if you haven't been here before, you gotta do it.

LAX - Rio de Janeiro (with Varig) or if you chose New York
JFK - Rio de Janeiro (with Varig)
Stop 5, the Sugarloaf, Copacabana, Capairinas, Mardi Gras

Rio de Janeiro - FRA (with LH)
Home, sleep!

Five continents visited, you've done well.


come visit the south pacific
 
Qantasclub
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:51 am

It's such an open question and where you fly to really depends on what you're after, or hoping to get out of your trip I guess. The two networks (Oneworld and Star) pretty much offer you seamless connections with the exception of Australia being a black spot for Star with the collapse of Ansett.
There is ONE glaring exception to what I have just said in terms of your choice of destination: it must..MUST include Sydney. I don't care what anyone here says, but it is really the most stunning and beautiful city in the whole world. That harbour with the opera house and bridge at sunset..will blow you away. Have fun!
Long Haul is the only way to go
 
Mohan
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:16 pm

Okay on the basis of what you want West to east on Star i would reccomend

FRA-LAX on LH
then from LAX go down for some sun to Tahiti on air NZ
Then to AKL on Air NZ go to the beautiful town of Queenstown then on to Sydney.Its summer here this time so the whole region will be nice.then from SYD to BKk can go to Phuket , Koh Samui Chiang Mai and then BKK to DEL if you wanna see India go to Agra & see the Taj
and then take Austrian to Vienna and then to FRA

or you can tottaly skip India or Vienna or Both
 
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RE: Round The World Flight - What Route?

Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:22 pm

i havent checked with any star alliance members, but i know Qantas has their round the world trip, covering 4, 5, or 6 continents, flying all of the oneworld members. decently priced, for what it includes. there's also a general global explorer package. http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/au/specials/rtwFares
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