RL757PVD
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SW To HNL Or ANK

Sun Jan 09, 2000 1:25 pm

When people think of the next SW citied most think of the 48 mainland states, but SW could do HNL etops and ANK from many w/coast destinations.
what do you think?
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clipperhawaii
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Sun Jan 09, 2000 2:39 pm

Not this year. Aloha starts service to Oakland this February and may prompt Southwest to look at Hawaii....we will have to see. Aloha will use 737-700.
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:09 am

could SW do PHX-HNL? or would they be restricted to flights from LAX. Either way i think SW might do it.
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HyperMike
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:27 am

Are they restricted to LAX-HNL? Don't forget SJC, SFO, or OAK. They could probably do HNL from any one of those these cities.

I don't see HNL becoming a WN destination. It doesn't seem to be a really profitable route. Most of the big guys do this route to keep their frequent flyers happy.

The reason I don't think WN will go to HNL is that none of their aircraft are EOW equipped. This means that certain aircraft will need to be equipped for a specific route. That will add a layer of complexity that Southwest avoids.
 
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:29 am

I don't see either of these destinations coming on line for SW anytime soon. I think that they might consider going international (Vancouver, BC, or Calgary) before they would consider ANC or HNL.

ANC has a proverbial air bridge to SEA with flights leaving almost every hour. The West Coast to HNL is just too long of a flight. SW would have to outfit their galleys with meal service capabilty and probably inflight entertainment if they want to be competitive. Aloha's 737-700s will have both, something that I just don;t think SW would consider doing.
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HyperMike
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:39 am

Planenutz missed the boat on this one. I don't think you'll ever see a galley or TV screen on a Southwest aircraft. That just goes against their business model.

Southwest started doing LAS-BWI non-stop. They thought about introducing a meal on the flight, but then they decided to keep on doing things they way they've successfully been doing it for over 25 years.
 
planenutz
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:48 am

How did I miss the boat?
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HyperMike
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 9:54 am

One of the strenghts in Southwest's business success is their consistency and commonality. If they put a galley in a few of their aircraft and equip them for over-water use, that means that they have another dependency in their scheduling. Right now, this requirement isn't part of their system.
 
planenutz
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RE: SW To HNL Or ANK

Mon Jan 10, 2000 10:06 am

Thats why I said that I DONT see WN starting service to HNL.

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