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ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 12:49 pm

I am planning a trip this summer to India, and am curious on your thoughts as to the best carrier and class of service I can get. I have flown Air India before, and would like to avoid them at all costs. Who has the best business class cabin, and what can I expect to pay for it?

Thanks for your tips!

See you up front!
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:29 pm

If you're flying to DEL from ORD then the best business class that I can recommend to you is :

1. BA
2. Korean via ICN
3. AF
4. KLM

However if you're flying to BOM :

1. BA
2. LX (Swiss)
3. AF

If you want to fly at a cheap fare business class to BOM or DEL from ORD :

1. Kuwait Airways
2. Royal Jordanian (amazing 82 inch seat pitch + full bed in J class on new A 342s but A 310s fly to India)
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:55 pm

You state that you wish to avoid Air India at all costs, but they do have the best deals in Business Class to India. I have flown their 744s twice in Business class and the savings of over $ 1500 more than made up for the lack of PTVs and flat bed seats (AI is about $ 3000 versus the closest competitor that charges $ 4400 R/T). Apparently they have flat bed seats now on the upper deck, and perhaps personal DVD players, so it may not be quite as outdated a product as I experienced in May of this year. Service is good, they keep your drinks constantly topped off, and the food is better than most carriers: not quite Singapore Air, but a lot better than United or Delta.

If cost is not a factor, then BA is your best bet, although changing planes at Heathrow can be an exercise in frustration with long waits resulting from terminal and taxiway congestion.
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:24 pm

Apparently they have flat bed seats now on the upper deck, and perhaps personal DVD players

The new upper deck business class seats on Air India are not flat beds, but rather 160-170 degree recline slumberettes with 59-62" pitch.

Very comfortable seats judging by my limited experience with them - and I hope to get into them next week as well.



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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:46 pm

Royal Jordanian doesnt fly the A310 to ORD only the A342.

Kuwait flyes the A340 also and they fly from ORD-AMS.

Air India i believe doesnt fly nonstop to India.....i think that flight is flown to LHR using the 744 then you go to India....am i wrong? Because i dont know for sure about the Air India deal..
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:04 pm

Air India i believe doesnt fly nonstop to India.....i think that flight is flown to LHR using the 744 then you go to India....am i wrong? Because i dont know for sure about the Air India deal..

Starting this week, AI will offer 6x weekly direct 744 service from ORD to BOM with 3x via LHR and 3x via FRA.
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:26 pm

If you're flying to DEL from ORD then the best business class that I can recommend to you is .....2. Korean via ICN

Short of parachuting out as their ICN-BOM flights fly overhead, do you have any suggestion as to how he should fly KE to DEL?
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:44 pm

If you tell us, where you are going, we could give you some more details. Are you going to BOM or DEL or MAA?

As far as DEL is concerned, I would probably recommend Air Canada via Toronto.

#1. Air Canada ORD-YYZ-DEL
#2. British Airways ORD-LHR-DEL
#3. KLM ORD-AMS-DEL
#4. Lufthansa ORD-FRA-DEL
#5. Air France ORD-CDG-DEL
Besides the fact that Korean Air does not serve DEL, it would be too long to go the Pacific way anyway. I have done it myself, Orlando to Bombay via the Pacific, and I really would not recommend it to anyone unless it was absolutely necesary.

For Bombay:

#1. Swiss ORD-ZRH-BOM
#2. British Airways ORD-LHR-BOM
#3. Lufthansa ORD-FRA-BOM
#4. Air France ORD-CDG-BOM
#5. KLM/NWA ORD-AMS-BOM

As far as the Kuwait Airways recommendation goes, I would stay away from them. Kuwait's Airport is bleak and lacks many of the charms of a European airport. Also Kuwait Airways is not all that high up in service. From my experience, the European airlines provide better service for better prices.

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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:19 pm

Don't forget about VS... don't they still operate to DEL?

In the end I'd probably opt for BA with the flat business class beds. It's quite a long trip (In the summer of 2001 I've done SFO-LHR-DEL a number of times in UA's first suite and even so it's still long enough to make one go mad!)

I can't wait for the day when UA announces service back to India. It's absolutely vital we serve that amazing country! The US has so many ex-patriots and the economic boom down there is very exciting! UA would be a perfect fit to cover SFO-DEL or ORD-DEL/BOM. I know that UA has dormant slots to Karachi, BOM and DEL via Frankfurt that we bought from PanAm.

some day...
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:12 pm

FA4UA...wouldnt it have been shorter for you if you had taken a flight from SFO to DEL via the Pacific like on CX SFO-HKG-DEL especially or even SQ SFO-HKG-SIN-DEL (this route maybe longer) but I would expect CX to take less time than your UAL route to DEL from SFO.

Oh and VS doesnt fly to ORD so thats out of the question unless he chooses VS from JFK or EWR (CO will fly him from ORD to EWR and then EWR-LHR-DEL 3 times a week A 340-300s...soon to be A 346s from Dec).

But on the whole if money is not a problem...then choose BA...if it is then go for Air India or Royal Jordanian.
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:39 pm

I would choose Royal Jordanian, since you will get a good seat in Crown
class on a A342 for the first 10 hours, and the flight Amman to India will
only take 3 hours. And you have great value for a good product.

Regards,
AMS
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:25 am

If you are looking for top of the line product opt for either LH/BA/KL for DEL and LH/BA/LX for BOM. Price-wise I'd recommend KU for both DEL / BOM (as you have already discounted AI). Forget them if you like a drink as they are totally dry. On the other hand if you are flying into BOM, KWI-BOM sector is an A300 with 18F/18J/196Y. However since no F/cl service is offered on this route all J/cl pax are seated in the F/cl cabin which are extremely spacious and comfortable. Connecting time in KWI is also not very much.

One word however for AI. I don't know why you had a bad experience with them, but I've just done a handful of J/cl long hauls with them and have found them excellent (even though I did not get to experience the new J/cl product). Food's top notch, friendly crew (don't go by their girth!), plenty to drink and the J/cl loos dont really get messed up like the ones at the back of the bus.

rgds//Vimanav
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:46 am

Behramjee,

you're right, it was the long way, however I had to run home in London to repack my suitcase and then I had to see family in SFO area! It's the long way... story of my life!

One time, trying to get LHR-SFO, all the flights were oversold so I had to fly LHR-NRT-SFO. Longest day of my life!  Nuts

Back to the subject at hand, thanks for the VS update, I thought they were still operating from ORD and daily to DEL! Show's how I'm a bit out of touch with big-red!
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:28 pm

There are so many new things happening with aviation in India that by summer 2004 you will have a larger number of choices into India.

For good Business Class service, I would advise you to avoid the European carriers, however, and use one of the Asian/Far Eastern operators, for a variety of valid reasons, including more interesting stop-overs.

An interesting way to do it would be to use EVA from ORD to BKK via Taipei, and connect from there on Indian Airlines, enter through one city n India and exit through another.
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:41 pm

Whenever I go to India I always prefer to fly there via Asia. I don't know if you have that option though from ORD. You might get cheaper fares via Europe. I would pick BA!
 
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RE: ORD To India - Airline And Cabin Reccomendations

Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:50 pm

I don't know what the accommodation is like, but the quickest way from ORD to DEL would be via Toronto. AC's new non-stop YYZ-DEL service is proving very popular and is already fully booked through January.

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