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LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:35 pm

From Freeserve news:

"A third runway for Heathrow Airport has been ruled out in the short-term, claim reports.

The Government has decided further expansion of Heathrow will not be possible without breaking European pollution laws.

Stansted will get the first new airport runway in the London area for nearly 20 years, according to the Financial Times.

The decision is to be disclosed in Transport Secretary Alistair Darling's 30-year strategy for the British aviation industry next month.

The number of air passengers is expected to rise from 117 million a year now, to 300 million by 2030.

The Government decision to rule out Heathrow for now will prove unpopular with some airlines, such as British Airways and Virgin, who are likely to appeal against the move, or even take legal action.

BA has claimed that two extra runways for the South East could generate £65bn of economic benefits, but has said an expansion to Stansted would be "disastrous" for the industry.

But a postponement of any decision on a third runway for Heathrow will be welcomed by residents of Heathrow and environmentalists who say any expansion would simply add to the noise, already dangerous pollutant levels from the M4 and M25 motorways, and add to damaging impact upon wildlife."

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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:49 pm

I do love LHR! I love it because there is always something to talk about! It's always buzzing with politics (such as expansion) or slander from the endless BA vs. VS battle... I love it!

Whenever you're at a cocktail party and the conversation dies, this is a wonderful topic to bring up!
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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:53 pm

Well, looks like LHR is going to lose traffic to FRA, CDG & AMS which have plenty of room to expand in the future & not to mention have more than 2 parallel runways. I understand that T5 at London Heathrow will increase capacity,BUT, aint the problem at LHR slot constraints???
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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:00 pm

I think a new runway at Stansted is needed more than the Heathrow runway. With tons of flights from Ryanair and Easyjet, and all the other operaters from there, it looks like a busy place and they do only have one runway. Gatwick, in my opinion, also needs an extra runway, but it doesn't look as if they're going to get one either.

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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:53 pm

The government would be wise to listen to the AIRLINES and their needs. A new runway at LHR is badly needed, how anyone can deny that is beyond me. But as usual, politics in this country is what will destroy the industry in this country. There's still hope but the someone needs to bang it into the politicians head that we need further development at Heathrow, starting with a new runway.
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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:48 am

I think its best to wait until the final report post-consultation comes out.

This could well be another case of our darling government putting out some well timed spin to soften the protestors, and raise the industries case prior to release.

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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:55 am

Heathrow is in desperate need of a new runway, the government can't ignore this, Heathrow the 3rd busiest airport in the word! And the busiest international airport. LHR brings in a ton of tourists because it's near London, people don't want to commute from Stansted or Gatwick, + the people near Stansted/Gatwick will protest anyway, Heathrow wouldn't be as bad because residents should be expecting expansion.

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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:55 am

The noise pollution consultation based its figures on all flights taking off on full thrust whereas most don't!Hence the reason BAA have complained.
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RE: LHR 3rd Runway 'Ruled Out In Short Term'

Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:21 am

The question is, how will it be financed; it's apparently going to be cost about GBP4bn; the LHR based airlines won't have it, FR will not accept its landing charges going up, no one really wants the runway there, they want it at LHR. Anyway, surely there's going to be more than one.

You can accept some pretty ruthless movements behind the scenes and I would expect the LHR based airlines to pull out some domestic flights and use these for long haul flights. Apparently, the Chancellor wants a runway to be added at LHR, so maybe there will be support for a coup. Everything possible will be done to undermine Darling (sorry, Darling!). This will be a particularly nasty business, but it has to be done in the UK's economic interests.

The main issue appears to be EU pollution laws, but since the runway won't be open until 2011 (at least - and obviously much later now), there is surely plenty of time to deal with pollution levels.

This, if confirmed, will be a very misguided decision and you can be sure that it won't be the end of it.

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