behramjee
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Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:41 am

I would like to get some advice from some of you as to which airline would be profitable to buy shares of this month :

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/airlin.html

1. HAWAIIAN share price went up 17% on FRI alone
2. CHINA SOUTHERN went up 5.61% on FRI too...see the above link and scroll down.

Currently what Ive invested in and made good $$$ in is on Southwest Airlines (5.7%+), MESA (16%+), DELTA (12.5%+), ALASKAN (6.87%+), AMERICAN (5.16%+).

I strongly believe that JET BLUE at its current price of $ 35 a share will rise back to the $ 50 level and that this winter with USA reporting a strong 8% growth economically, key winter destinations like HNL (hub of Hawaiian) will be getting 1000s of tourists so Hawaiian sounds like a good option and its shares are only worth $ 2.76 each!!! Also Southwest always being profitable is a good one too and others that come to mind are the Chinese listed airlines in the Dow Jones and NASDAQ.

However I would appreciate your input and future predictions too pertaining to this matter of which airline stock prices is worth investing in this winter.

Thanks  Smile
 
EMBQA
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:48 am

You want some advice......?? Don't invest in airline stocks.... There are many other WAY more profitable company's out there, and that pay a MUCH higher return and dividend.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
 
artsyman
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:50 am

I strongly believe that JET BLUE at its current price of $ 35 a share will rise back to the $ 50 level
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The only reason Jetblue is down at 35 dollars is because the stock split. It's current real stock price is about 69 dollars which is dramatically overpriced.
 
behramjee
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:53 am

I have invested in other areas too but I would like to some concrete input with regards to airline stocks too.

When B6s stock split took place, the share price was $ 50.10 and then it became $ 34.98 when the split happened.

MESA-DL-AMR-ALASKAN-NWA-CZ are steadily growing...but I was very shocked to see Hawaiians price jump 17%...maybe ppl are expecting a big boom this winter to HNL and that too on their planes!!!
 
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:58 am


Analyst consensus on JBLU is heavily weighted from Hold to Weak Hold. Only two analysts rate as buy or above. While P/E is almost 39x, LUV is 35.3x.

Too bad you didn't invest in AMR in Jan, it's up 94% YTD.
 
artsyman
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:01 am

I luckily managed to buy a lot of shares of Continental through the employee stock plan post 9.11 at around 3 dollars per share, it hit 22 about 10 days ago... not a bad return
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goingboeing
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:02 am

Too bad you didn't invest in AMR in Jan, it's up 94% YTD.

That's true, but there had also been a lot of talk about a possible bankruptcy. SHould that have occured, AMR would have been a penny stock, and anyone fool enough to hold it after that would most likely be left with worthless paper, as holder of U stock did and UAL stock will.
 
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:10 am

Behramjee:

You asked about two specific stocks. Don't forget that Hawaiian (ticker symbol HA) is in bankruptcy.

There may be money to be made in some short term trading, but it has been strongly suggested that the stock will be cancelled when the company comes of of bk (as with UAL).

If this happens, you would lose your entire investment.

Also, the stock has had a big run up since they went into bk (traders at work), and it's possible there isn't a lot of upside potential.

So I'm not saying don't do it, just - be careful.

cheers

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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:10 am

The strongest earner this year YTD has been AWA and I expect them to continue solid growth. However, the market doesn't always reflect solid results.

If i were a betting man who didn't mind a lot of risk, I'd throw my money into DAL. They have currently forecast a dismal Q4 revenue picture which has nowhere to go but up. The stock price has already adjusted to take account for the projected earnings, so if they are able to come in above those levels they will likely see a solid spike.

JBLU is overpriced. Don't go near them.

I strongly cautioned against AMR earlier this year and continue to do so until we can see their cost control hold over a longer term. But I am more bullish on them than I was 6 months ago.

Also, considering the current round of musical regionals I would look closely into those stocks as those are usually solid bets for strong earnings once a long term contract is locked up. SKYW and XJT obviously are the lowest risk options, but MESA and PNCL could possibly benefit depending on what transpires with ACAI and MAIR respectively.
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deltaffindfw
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:13 am


This is fact, don't gripe at me because it is not my recommendation!

JetBlue Airways Corporati (NASD:JBLU) Consensus Recommendation:
Hold
Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE:LUV) Consensus Recommendation:
Hold
Ryanair Holdings plc (ADR (NASD:RYAAY) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (AD (OTC Big grinLAKY) Consensus Recommendation:
Buy
British Airways plc (ADR) (NYSE:BAB) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
AMR Corporation (NYSE:AMR) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Delta Air Lines, Inc. (NYSE:DAL) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:AAI) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Continental Airlines, Inc (NYSE:CAL) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Northwest Airlines Corpor (NASD:NWAC) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Alaska Air Group, Inc. (NYSE:ALK) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
America West Holdings (NYSE:AWA) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
Frontier Airlines, Inc. (NASD:FRNT) Consensus Recommendation:
Outperform
US Airways Group, Inc. (NASD:UAIR) Consensus Recommendation:
Underperform
UAL Corporation (OTC :UALAQ) Consensus Recommendation:
Underperform
 
EMBQA
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:18 am

That +17% you watched on Friday with HAL will surely turn into a bigger loss on Monday. Just like 'Mariner' said, the company is in bankruptcy, so all the people out there that are just waiting to see a slight rise will now dump it to cut their losses when/if they cancel the stock.........just like USAirways did.

You watch. Its called PROFIT TAKING...and happenes all the time.
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PSA53
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:58 am

I put my money were my mouth is!
My own opinion, (LUV)-
WN-aggressive=Growth=profit.
Time after time.The stock is under valued.

AMR is not stable.Roll the dice.
13.8 billion debt.

JBLU-Peaked
AWA-Growth,If they stay on course to reverse emyloyee/customer
relations.At this writing, neutral,wait and see.

I also agree with a couple of folks on this subject.Airline stocks
are very risking,and like the horses,stay on top of it on a daily
basis!

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luv2fly
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:03 am

Warren Buffet said it best when it comes to airline stock, "If you want to be a millionaire in the airlines industry, then just invest a billion and soon you will be!" I am not sure I am quoting him 100%, tho you should get the picture, loud and clear.
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CanadaEH
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RE: Airline Stocks-Investment/Share Prices

Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:24 am

I've heard that Westjet is the best airline to invest in. It's been given an outperform rating for a few years now and has consistently beat analysts expectations. My advice would be to read investor reports on certain airlines before making your choice. Coming from a Westjet shareholder myself, I am very pleased by the money I've made on my stock..  Smile
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