You make very good points in your above posts. I have been hearing this rumor growing rapidly from airline friends all over the country at different companies over the last few weeks. I was wondering how long it would take to show up on this forum.
To add to what you have already said, I can see why it would be a plus in some ways for WN
to purchase AQ
. For those who don't know, AQ
has been for sale for a few years now. AQ
is doing VERY well on their -700 trans-pac service, load wise and profit wise. SNA
is making the most, and AQ
has been trying to score more slots out of this airport, as well as OAK
. We all know that slots at SNA
are at a premium....so for WN
, it would be a plus to acquire these slots, as it could be tough to get as many as they would want on their own.
Jeffrey1970 made the argument "why doesn't WN
just do it themselves?" Other than the slot issue, it takes a lot of time and money to obtain a 737 ETOPS certificate, not to mention the airplanes all have to be specially equipped for ETOPS flying. Crews would have to be trained for ETOPS flying too, although that wouldn't be that long and difficult. They would also have to set up shop from scratch in HNL
, KOA, and possibly LIH. With AQ
they would already have all of this in place.
Drawbacks: I don't know how WN
would tackle the inter-island market. It would never work on their own, if they were to do this, they would have to buy AQ
. I just don't see why WN
would want to be involved with a deteriorating inter-island market anyway. For years both AQ
and HAL have lost money with this. It is the long haul that is making the money for AQ
, not inter island flying. I wonder if WN
would just turn over all of the inter island market to Island Air and run an RJ
or Dash 8Q400 or something on that as a separate company as a WN
I know pilots and F/A's at both companies. I get different opinions from each group. Many WN
people I've talked to would love to move to Hawaii and fly day trips. Guys at AQ
are worried that they may lose their easy lifestyle to a more senior WN
employee and bump them to OAK
crewmembers inter island can be home every night and only work around 13 days a month....very appealing to the family man/woman. Overwater crews (pilots) only fly around 10 days a month (if you count the day off in the middle of the 3 day trips, 15 days if you don't), and have an 80 hour guarantee to actually fly about 65-71 hours a month. To make it simple, WN
employees work a lot more than AQ
however, well it's obvious. VERY STABLE company with good pay. I think that many AQ
employees would be all for it for that reason alone.
Why would WN
want to get involved with Hawaii? Hawaii tourism is up, up, up. More and more people are traveling to the islands now a days for vacation for reasons we all know. ATA is a LCC that has jumped on the Hawaii market, and they are doing well with it. Rumors are is that JetBlue has been eyeing service from the west coast as well. Why not WN
get the jump on them and get it going now? I think it would be a wise move for them, bringing on AQ
would only speed things up and help it along. Sorry for the novel...........