behramjee
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KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:31 pm

KLM spokesperson Bart Koster said the carrier will restore 2004 summer capacity to 2001 levels, which it originally expected to do last summer. The airline cut capacity substantially during the 2003-04 summer and winter schedules in response to declining demand as a result of SARS.

The summer season begins on March 28 and ends next Oct. 30. The long-haul network will see further extension of the joint venture with Northwest Airlines, KLM noted. KLM will deploy its new 777-200ERs on routes to New York JFK and San Francisco and capacity will be increased on daily services to Toronto by deploying 747-400s instead of 777s.

Flight frequency between Amsterdam and Minneapolis will be raised from two to three daily using MD11s and Amsterdam-Houston flights will increase from seven to nine weekly using 767s. The number of weekly flights between Amsterdam and Miami will be reduced from seven to five using MD11s.

KLM will begin exercising its extended landing rights for China and Japan, operating daily service to Beijing, Shanghai and Tokyo using 747-400 Combis. For the time being it will not reinstate flights to Baghdad owing to the continuing instability. Flight frequency to Caracas will be raised from four to five weekly as of May 1 using 767s. Frequency to Cape Town will be reduced from seven to five weekly in response to seasonal traffic fluctuations using 777s.
 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:56 pm

For the time being it will not reinstate flights to Baghdad owing to the continuing instability

Reinstating from when? It's not like they've flown there since LOOOONG before 2001.
 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:01 pm

Reinstating from when? It's not like they've flown there since LOOOONG before 2001.

I am not sure if the service ever started (I do not think it did), but KLM did announced AMS-BGW and the flights were loaded into CRS systems.
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RE: Branson Writes To Schwarzenegger

Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:05 pm

Behramjee, KLM had twice daily svcs to LAX on select days prior to 9/11..any word on that ratching it up here?

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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:36 pm

AMS-BGW was due to commence using the 767-300. This service has since been delayed.

AMS-LAX indeed was flown 2 x daily prior to 9/11. The first departure was at 11:20am, the second was at 2:20pm... Return departures from LAX were at 3:55pm, the second was 6:20pm... These routes used a combination of 747-200 SUD, and 747-400 Combi aircraft!

AMS-SFO will be flown using the 777-200 and MD-11 the aircraft will vary dependant apon the day of the week.

AMS-JFK will be flown twice daily utilizing the 747-400 Combi and 777-200.

AMS-EWR will be flown using the 767-300

AMS-IAD will be flown using the 767-300

AMS-IAH will be flown using the 747-400 combi, and 767-300.

AMS-MSP will be flown using the MD-11... Remaining NWA service will utilize a mix of 747-400 and DC-10-30 service on MSP-AMS.

AMS-YUL will continue to be flown using the MD-11

AMS-YVR will be flown with a mix of MD-11, 767-300 aircraft.

AMS-ATH it has been rumore that the airline will be using a 747-400 on the route in Summer 2004... Dont hold your breath .. current timetables and flights are only showing three daily flights using the 737-800 and 737-400 aircraft!

Are any of the rumors true that KLM will be changing the 747-400 Combi for the 777-200 on AMS-GRU?

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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:46 pm

kewl...some md11s at MSP...that doesn't happen often!!
 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:31 pm

Expect a lot of big widebody charters (DC10-747-330etc type) being flown into ATHENS plus the major Euro airlines flying large aircraft there for 3-4 weeks due to the SUMMER OLYMPICS RUSH!!!

As for KLM...will the YYZ route see a 744 Combi or a full pax version? I would assume the latter?

Also are their Japan and China flights flown with pax B 744s or 744 Combis?

Im surprised that EWR is with an old B 763ER...they should change it to a B 772 from May for the peak summer season or at least to an MD 11. In Jan 01, I saw their evening B 744 take off from IAH alongwith an LH A 340-300.

Its always amazed me as to why KLM sends a NWA DC 10-30 (old one) to BOM and not utilize its own aircraft on daily AMS-BOM-AMS flights; which are more modern and efficient and efficient than NWAs!!! Surely there is demand for KL sending its MD 11 or B 772ER there or even a 744 Combi.

 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 6:06 pm

KLM, instead of serving Bombay operates daily service to Delhi.

AMS-DEL is to revert from 747-400 Combi to 777-200 service in 2004!

Also, do expect a growth of KLM to the Indian region. Main cities for growth would be Madras and Calcutta!

At one time the airlines were operating a very interesting schedule to India.

NWA
AMS-BOM 4 days of the week 747-400
AMS-DEL 3 days of the week DC-10-30

KLM
AMS-BOM 3 days of the week 747-200
AMS-DEL 4 days of the week 747-200

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KLM, instead of operating larger aircraft to Newark are content with Continental Airlines using their equipment on the route as well!

AMS-EWR is 767-300
Continental Airlines- 767-400 or 777-200

AMS-JFK is to be 747-400Combi, 777-200

In addition KLM, has had a very strong presence at JFK for decades. Thusfore, the larger equipment and frequency!


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Should KLM and Alitalia mend their individual differences and move on within in SkyTeam look for KLM to resume widebody aircraft on the following routes.

AMS-MXP using a mix of 767-300, 737 aircraft

AMS-FCO using a mix of 767-300, 737 aircraft



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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:02 pm

Glad to see the increased frequency to CCS. KL used to operate 6 weekly AMS-CCS flights using the MD-11. I wonder if there's any chance of the flights reverting back to the MD-11?
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:19 pm

AMS - GRU will be flown by the 777 starting march 28th.
 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:28 pm

Its always amazed me as to why KLM sends a NWA DC 10-30 (old one) to BOM and not utilize its own aircraft on daily AMS-BOM-AMS flights

As discussed on this thread, this is because of the bilateral treaty that restricts KLM to 7 weekly services to India.
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:33 pm

What about restoring AMS-ATL? At one time they ran a daily 747 (which was always a joy to see in 747-starved ATL), then it was reduced to a 767 (which I flew) and then they cut service altogether.
 
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RE: KLM Announces Big Changes

Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:39 am

Remaining NWA service will utilize a mix of 747-400 and DC-10-30 service on MSP-AMS

Is that true? I thought NW would simply use the 10's & 330's for transatlantic operations and leave the 744's for pacific ops for now.
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RE: What Figher Planes Would Have Been Available?

Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:49 am

NWA is replacing DC-10s with A330 on transatlantic routes and 747-200 with 747-200.
DC-10s are being relegated to transcontinental routes only as soon as enough A330s come online to replace them all.
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