incubus
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A Pregnant Pause?

Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:35 pm

A brief anecdote:

I was taking the BA/Citiexpress 146 from Gatwick to Inverness on Monday evening just passed. About 25 minutes into the flight the captain announced that we would be stopping off at Manchester 'because the FO's wife was in labour, and he needed to get on a flight to Dublin'. We duly landed at Manchester, and once a replacement FO had been supplied we were airborne again after only 30 minutes on the ground.

I'm sure the suits at the airline loved all that extra cost  Big grin

Any stranger reasons for diversnon?
 
MYT332
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:56 pm

I would be pretty annoyed if I had to make a diversion because the pilots wife was in labor. I mean, did he not think what the inconvenience would mean to the passengers?? Granted his wife needed him but I still don't agree with the pilots holding up 90/100 pax like that.

Ahh just realised, I should have blagged it that I had a family emergency when I was flying SFO-LHR so that they would have dropped me off at MAN, which is where I live, instead of making me drive the 3 1/2 hours back home from LHR. I'm really annoyed now!!  Pissed

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incubus
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:36 pm

I did ask one of the FAs if the flight would have been diverted for my wife's labour (hypothetical for a single man, I know!), and was told a firm no!

I wasn't too upset: there was no hurry for me to get to Inverness and since t/o landing is the best phase of flight I got more fun from the trip!
 
Skip7966
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:57 pm

Sorry FO, but if you couldn't take the time off for when your wife is due, I can't take time out of my schedule to accomdate you. You will be landing at my destination and not yours or you will be paying for my ticket for my next trip. I hate to sound cold, but if you won't make a stop for me and my wife, why should I have to make a stop for you and yours?

If I was running that airline, that FO and the rest of the crew would be back in instruction planes teaching newbies and telling them why they USED to fly for an airline buy now they make their living teaching others to fly.

Those that can DO, those that can't TEACH!
 
Tiger119
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:02 pm

I really do not want to sound insensitive, but didn't the FO know his wife's due date was up coming? Or was he trying to cut it as close as he could until birthin' time? Now, I'm sure the suits were more than a little steamed up. The cost of fuel alone would put me over the top. What were the passengers thinking and saying? Did any of them miss connections or possibly meetings at their destination?
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Skip7966
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:11 pm

BTW, I'm sorry if I offended any instructor out there trying to get your hours. I just know that the next level after instruction is flying regional and obviously those regional pilots cared more about their personal life than the passengers that were paying their wages.
 
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:13 pm

Maybe they should've taken a vote amongst the pax; if they thought they should put down in Manchester to let the FO get off to tend to his wife, or if they should continue with their original flight and let him figure out how to get to his wife when they got to Inverness......

Sounds fair, doesn't it? Any guesses how that vote would go?
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incubus
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:22 pm

Tiger119:

The pax were all very calm and accepting of the decision. It was an evening flight, due to arrive in Inverness 21:45, and most of the PAX were flying up for meetings the next day so the delay didn't affect their schedules.

 
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:44 pm

Skip7966:

If I was running that airline, that FO and the rest of the crew would be back in instruction planes teaching newbies and telling them why they USED to fly for an airline buy now they make their living teaching others to fly.

I understand you being ill with the Captain and the F/O. But I have no idea why you would want to do anything to the rest of the crew. The "rest of the crew" would include the flight attendants.

I flew for well over thirty years and have never heard of an airplane making a pit stop so someone in the crew could get off for any reason. Babies have a way of making their own schedules so it's not easy to plan for, but it hardly warrants making an unscheduled stop so the father to be can get off the plane.
 
cainanuk
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:03 pm

Anyone ever thought that perhaps the baby was off schedule? We don't know all the facts. And as for why didn't the pilot take time off...In the UK, fathers are only allowed 2 weeks of paternity leave and cannot take unpaid family leave until after the baby is born. Fathers are not entitled to start paternity leave until 1 week before the due date. Perhaps the baby was early and that is why he was still flying. Since my wife just gave birth to my baby daughter 5 1/2 months ago, I wouldn't begrudge allowing this guy to get off the plane to be with his wife. It is a magical moment and some things are more important than some business meeting the NEXT day in Inverness. Lighten up people.
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:27 pm

The self-importance displayed in the replies in this thread so far is quite frightening.

Yes, a staff member of a particular company got a privilege that customers of the company wouldn't get - so what? It happens in just about every industry around the world, not just the aviation industry - and often causes slight inconvenience to the customers. For god's sake, get a life, stop your whinging, and reexamine your priorities!
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richardw
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:33 pm

Lucky the FO was not flying for a no frills airline.

Well done BA.
 
noelg
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RE: A Pregnant Pause?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:43 pm

Along the same sort of lines...

I once knew a friend who flew 172s from EMA. He told me how if there would be a delay in landing (such as having to orbit or similar) he would tell ATC he had a sick passenger on board and had to land immediately - they would always accomodate him and make the passenger jets wait so he could save a few ££.  Pissed

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