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Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:04 pm

While reading Worst landing experience thread, as fortunately I don't have any such worst experience but I have one best experience.

Being aviation lover, I regularly observe landing and takeoff very closely. And I have ever best landing experience on Raji Airline (A short lived airline from Pakistan) from Lahore to Karachi, while we were on finals and I was very closely watching when we would touch down, and I realized that we have landed when brakes were applied.

The aircraft was probably TU-154 (Russian, like B727, three engines on its tail)

That was my ever best landing experience where I was watching and observing very closely (being first flight on TU-154, so I was very curious regarding her behavior) and I absolutely got no idea when we touched down.

What's others best experience??
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:16 pm

and I absolutely got no idea when we touched down.

I'll interpret that as a metaphor. Rubber wheels making contact with uneven and harsh pavement at 120 knots or more don't produce at least a slight rattling?? Don't think so Saleem  Big thumbs up .

Back to the topic, I guess good landing experiences are more than the bad ones. My best was probably on a fairly clear day at BOG, like at 7:30 and no winds. A ILS approach to rwy 13R and touch down was very smooth. Pilot did not apply reverse thrust and braked very slowly until abandoning the active.

Just more common.


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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:27 pm

July 14, 2001 at MAD. SpanAir 763, arriving from IAD.

We flew across western Spain just before sunrise, which was cool just by itself. The captain throttled back as we neared MAD, and we seemed to just "float" down...we made a turn and landed to the NW, incredibly smooth...light touchdown and rollout. I was simply amazed. I'll never forget it.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:44 pm

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:48 pm

Beautiful night landing at MEM on a DL 737-800. Plane was brand new, IFE (best episode of Spin City ever). Perfectly clear, calm, soft touchdown.


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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:57 pm

I was on an AA Fokker in October landing at ATL on 8L. Pilot did not use reverse thrust. He just applied the brakes gently and let the plane roll out until we just passed Concourse E.

Normally landing from the west, AA pilots try to see how quickly they can stop, so they don't have a long taxi back to Concourse T.

[Edited 2003-12-13 07:04:17]
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:10 pm


Actually, in the Tu-154...the landing is exactly like that. I've flown it several times and everytime it was like that where you don't realize when you touch down. It's true ask people who have flown it. You have a point that rubber wheels touching at high speed would be notceable but you're probably basing it on a B-737 or something similar. Remember...the Tu-154 has 12 of these wheels instead of 4 and it has a wide base making it very smooth. Also, it's wings flex and bend very easy and absorb the impact. Those are the main reasons for the smoothness of a Tu-154. Compare it to it's nearest western rival...the B-757(8 wheels, narrow base, not so flexible wing). That one always makes a noticeable landing. And the Tu-154 is also my best landing experience.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:24 pm

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:53 pm

Thanks Sovietjet for confirming landing on TU 154

Actually that was my first and last experience on TU 154, and after that unfortunately I couldn't fly on TU 154.

Based on my own knowledge and experience I have the same understanding of TU 154, with 12 wheels little bit slanting, makes perfect landing. I have experience of flying in Yak 42 and its landings are always smoother than any other aircraft like B737, A300, A310, B747 etc..

I have experienced more than 350 landings but the experience of TU 154 was really remarkable and unforgettable.

That landing was just like that, that someone placed aircraft on ground very politely.

Recently, when I was traveling to Karachi on B743, the landing was perfect and very smooth but you always got the feeling of rubber contact with concrete, but I once again say that on TU 154 I didn't get that feeling at all.

Further, in my opinion (would like confirmation) the touchdown speed of TU 154 is slower than 737 or same category aircraft.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:00 pm

When you are jumpseating Big grin
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:06 pm

Singapore Airlines:

Flt: SQ334, Singapore-Paris (CDG) 28 September, 2003.
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400 Megatop. Reg: 9V-SPG

Aircraft descended rapidly, and landmarks of Paris were visible (Time about 4:30am). Whilst on final, the plane descended, and hit the tarmac. It was hardly felt! (i Mean, it was a 744, it was felt) but the landing was incredibly smooth. Most flights are like that with SQ, only one bad experience.. SQ219, ,Sin-Syd.

I have experienced much worse landings in 737's, A340,320,321's, 717's, Dash 8Q's..

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:11 pm

My best landing experience came on 14th of August 1999(Lucky day being the independence day of Pakistan) on board a PIA 737 landing on 36R coming into Lahore. Ironically there was no purpose of my travel than to experience yet another cockpit flight with my friend. We went to Islamabad in the cockpit, after we had already requested the captain of our purpose of going. Within 30 minutes of arrival we were on our way back to Lahore on another 737. I remember that the landing in ISB was kinnda scary because of the crosswind as we were comming in with a considerable crab angle, we bounced off the runway when we touched down.
Having satisfied our appetite for the day, on our way back home we decided to experience it from the cabin just for a change. I still regret it, coz as we held tight to our armrests expecting a hard touchdown, it was surprisingly smooth, the smoothest touchdown I can ever expect. It was almost nothing as we saw the speed brakes extending, it was the experience of a life time.
After the landing we went to the cockpit to thank the captain for such a great experience, and recieved a shock as he very honestly told us that it was the first officer.The name of the Captain was Junaid Abassy and the First Officer was Khurram Butt. Both were extremely friendly and told us that we should have requested to be in cockpit before the takeoff.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:24 pm

Once I got to sit in the cockpit jumpseat of a PIA 747 ISB-LHR for most of the flight. The landing was definitely the highlight, and LHR is one of my favorite airports, btw.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:40 pm

You not only reminded me of this unforgettable experience, but also of the short era when suddenly a lot of new airlines started emerging. Bhoja, AeroAsia, Baruda, Raji and Shaheen Airlines are comming to my mind for now. All with their russian noisy engines used to wake us up at night when any of those used to take off. I never felt annoyed, rather it was pleasent to me unlike most others around me. Unfortunately, only Aero Asia still continues to operate uninterrupted. Shaheen had to suspend operations for a long time after starting off with the exciting 737-400, the newest aircraft among all airlines. When I came to the US, they had started operating again but with the russian TU-154. Bhoja also survived for a considerable period of time together with their beautiful flying club, Pakistan Aviators based on Lahore International Airport, until Bhoja's sad ending when I guess their aircrafts were seized in Dubai I guess for I don't know what reason. I hope their club is still up and running. I rented my first flight from there in a C-152 registered AP-BEN. I hope they are taking care of the MOST beautiful (externally and internally) C-172XP I have ever seen.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:47 pm

No doubt : Pakistani Pilots are one of the best pilots in the world  Smile
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:51 pm

Me and my Instructor were competing against each other for the smoothest touch down and even though he has 2000+ hours , sometimes a rookie has a better grip on the yoke then a pro  Big grin
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 6:19 pm

Concorde, from the cockpit, when it was still possible to do so. September 1982, JFK-LHR, BA194. Invited to cockpit after luncheon service, invited to stay through landing in jump seat. 20 degree pitch up on landing with a slight buffeting just before touchdown at 170kts. There was not then, and there won't be probably in the rest of my lifetime, an aircraft like her. Fortunately, I will get to visit her again, almost 20 years later next week. Speedbird Concorde Alpha Golf is awaiting completion of the new wing of the Museum which will be her new home; the Museum of Flight in Seattle.

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:02 pm

My best landing experience was on a WJ flight from YVR to saskatoon... Beautiful landing... hardly felt a thing! What made me laugh was that it was the first flight for the pilot! Everyone clapped for him as we came to a halt.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:31 pm

For me it was my first ever flight: KLM DC-8 from Jhb to Ams, with a stop in Kinshasa in the middle of the night. I was in the jump seat for that, my first ever landing  Smile

Another two: 1. All landings at Hong Kong's Kai Tak. 2. Inaugural KLM flight to Cape Town when we got a tour of the Peninsula at 1500 ft and landed at a rather low airspeed (around 100 kts). My brother, watching from the terminal, said he'd never seen so much smoke in his life upon landing. It was a smooth landing though!
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:51 pm

Had an awesome landing on an Avro100 with Malmö Aviation at ESSB about 2 years ago. The runway is pretty short, 5400 ft, so, prejudice as I am, I always expect rather firm touchdowns, especially if I notice that we will touchdown a bit down the runway. But not this time, I hardly felt we were on the ground. The entire flight from Gothenburg was really nice in itself, so that was a great ending!


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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:58 pm

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:01 pm

My best landing experience is from British Airways Concorde G-BOAG
August 2nd 1990 at runway 26L London-Gatwick ending a flight from
Stockholm-Arlanda. When Gatwick celebrated 60 years of operation
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:15 pm

One of my best airline landings was in a HP 737-300. It was very smooth, no bounce, etc.

But the best landings I have done have been in general aviation planes.
Proabably the Piper Warrior and Cessna 310 are my best. Those are the kind when you touch and wonder "Have we landed yet?"  Smile
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:38 am

Beleive it or not, my best landing experience was in a C-17. Our contact with the ground was so suttle that the only evidence of being on the ground was the sound of the wheels rolling and the roar from reverse thrust.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:45 am

IB 757 at LHR - Even though you have to slow quickly and exit so the next plane can land, it was still the smoothest touch down I have ever experienced, as we turned off the runway I saw the BA 747 behind us come whizzing past, always the best landing at LHR.

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:04 pm

Was on a US flight FRA-PHL in August 2001. It was on A333 with a female pilot. So smooth you hardly noticed you were on the ground
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:59 pm

On a US 757 MBJ-PHL. the smoothest landing ever.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:49 am

Mine was probably in a United 747-400 that was supposed to go SFO-ORD, but was diverted to Milwaukee due to thunderstorms at ORD. I'm sure this happens quite a bit, but it was cool lumbering in over the Milwaukee suburbs in the 747-400 since this airport doesn't get regular service by anything this large. I watched people on the ground pointing up at us, so that was neat.

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:25 am

My best was on an El Al 747 Flying from Stansted to Ben Gurion, Tel Aviv. I didn't know we had landed until I heard reverse thrust and brakes being applied. Truly amazing. Best landing ever.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:42 am

On a 727 Northwest Orient into Bozeman, Montana, back in July 1986...stands out among the very best I've experienced...smooth but very 'eventful' as the captain performed some pretty theatrical maneuvers...definitely a military guy!
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:44 am

My best landing experiences? Well...

1. CX 747-400 landing in Bremen after a planned go around. It was the very first landing of a 747 in BRE. Big plane + short runway = fun!!

2. Approach into Lugano (Switzerland). A 6 degree approach is definitely something different to the standard 3 degree ILS approaches I'm used to. Oh, and by the way, I was on the jumpseat...

3. Kai Tak. Ordinary Kai Tak 13 landing in a CX A340-300. How I miss this airport...

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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:50 am

i couldn't pay an airline for my best landing experience... during instrument training i flew from MQY (smyrna, tn) to HSV (huntsville, al) in pretty solid IMC, intercepted the localizer, flew the palne to the ground, flared and didn't even feel the plane touch down. the only way we knew was hearing the wheels begins to roll... beautiful!
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:21 am

Miami Air B727-200Adv landed at night at Havana, Cuba two years ago!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:30 am


Its like a mini version of Kai Tak, fantastic!
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Best Landing Experience

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:27 pm

Mine was August 1989 with Balkan Bulgarian Airlines. I think we flew on a TU 154 from BOJ-NCL. I was sitting next to the oxygen tank with an empty plastic cup on it and it never moved a flicker whilst landing. The landing was so good, no-one on the aircraft knew we had hit the tarmac until the captain announced our arrival at NCL. The only thing I could fault on that flight was the strip lighting falling from the ceiling of the aircraft whilst taking-off.
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RE: Best Landing Experience

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:36 pm

My best landing was on an SAA A320 JNB-CPT, on 31st December 1992, the flight was pretty empty and we'd had a quick trip down, the captain came on the PA and said we'd be having a low altitude tour of the Cape peninsular - we flew down over Simonstown and Hout Bay, turned left and did a wide circle out over the sea, flew inland over Table Bay (I don't know how high but not very) with the city on the right and then landed - it was excellent, I was going from one side of the cabin to the other taking loads of pictures.
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