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What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:53 am

These planes are mentioned quite often as serving AA extremely well on their carribean routes due to cargo and pax capacity. I was wondering if the order was inherited from EA, just as the Latin American network was? EA was the first US carrier to order Airbus, so it seems logical that the AA AB6's would be originally destined for Eastern
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:58 am

No, AA saw these as the perfect aircraft for its Caribbean operations, and ordered them from Airbus itself. Eastern never ordered the AB6.

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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:58 am

The Eastern planes went to Continental. Maybe a simple answer is that AA fleet and it looks like they still do fit into there fleet plane, and by the looks of it they are happy with them right now.
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:19 am

One of the reasons that AA went with the A300, and the F-100's for that matter, was to tell Boeing and McD that they weren't the only players in the market. They did this to get deals from Boeing and McD and got a nice deal from Airbus on the A300, as they were attempting to make in-roads with North American airlines. Boeing though they had it all wrapped up with the 767's, but AA went with the A300's as they were better suited for their needs, partially to play each company of one another. Crandell was a businessman for sure.
 
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:24 am

Yeah, Crandall with his Olives and Value Pricing. =)
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:37 am

Actually Airbus offered AA a walk-away deal with the 600. If AA did not like the performance of the 600, they could return all 25 to Airbus with no penalties. As it was, AA was happy with the 600 and went on to procure another 10.

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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:25 am

Well, probably for sure, we won't see American ordering from Airbus again in the near future, not after the pre-9/11 incident over New York.
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:27 am

To further what Yyz717 said, AA can return 24 of the A300s with a 30-day notice. AA owns the other 10 A300s outright. Personally I like to see AA get a few more A300-605Rs on the second-hand market...if anything just to piss off Boeing.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:28 am

AA is firmly back in the Boeing camp now. They effectively signed on as an exclusive B customer a few years ago in return for maximuim flexibility with orders, as did CO and DL.

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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:28 am

Actually, it was post-9/11, just after and some hysterical people tried to blame terrorists. The thing that will more likely keep AA from going 'Bus is their exclusive provider agreement with Boeing, although AA and Airbus are not too happy with eachother after the Jamaica Bay crash
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:35 am

That 'written' agreement giving 'exclusive' service to AA, CO & DL was torned up after Airbus cried foul majorly. Now it's more like a 'handshake' deal. Nothing on paper anymore. Regards.
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RE: What Prompted The AA A300 Order?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:38 am

Actually, Boeing were being a bunch of pompous asses with the 767. They tried to push Boeing around, and AA said screw you and ordered Airbus. Boeing happily sold AA 767s at much more reasonable prices after that one.

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