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What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:02 am

This may have been discussed before but I could not find anything by doing a search.

What small cities or towns have lost all of their commercial airline service due to cutbacks in the last 2 years??

I can think of only one here in the Great Lakes area...that being Youngstown, Ohio. YNG used to be served by NW Airlink from DTW.

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:06 am

AA Eagle was ready to pull out of GGG, but they were able to get an agreement with county officials and still have 3-4 daily flights to DFW. They are the only carrier at GGG; I am surprised that AA decided to stay because TYR is just a short 30-45 minute drive. Actually, I think airport officials at TYR and GGG could easily combine their efforts and build a joint Tyler-Longview airport that could get RJ service to several destinations. However, TYR just finished construction of a brand-new terminal, so I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:11 am

Salem, OR used to be served by UA mainline and Horizon / Air Oregon
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:01 am

Mansfield, OH used to have commercial service. The terminal still shows signs that airlines once served it. The ticket counters are still there.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:10 am

The city of Detroit proper lost its service via ProAir out of DET a couple years ago.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:14 am

YNG is served by US Airways Express from PIT with the B1900 i believe (Air Midwest, Mesa).

Wheeling, WV (HLG) was served by capital with Dc-3's a long time back  Wink/being sarcastic

Washington Co. Airport, PA (AFJ)
was served by a carrier i cant remember back in the 70's and 80's with Beech 99's.

I believe Latrobe, PA; Johnstown, PA; Lancaster, PA; and Morgantown, WV are going to be losing their US Airways Express services. But thats the current rumor at PIT.

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Servi

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:19 am

Utica, NY lost all service. In its last days, it couldn't even support one B1900 to NYC.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:22 am

IN Italy Albenga (ALL) has lost all the commercial flight. It was served by alitalia (AZ) with atr 42 in a daily fligth to Rome Fiumicino.

 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:27 am

Sorry ATCT, but it doesn't appear that US is flying into YNG anymore either. I checked the US website, and got this response:


"Service from YOUNGSTOWN/WARR, OH to PITTSBURGH, PA is not available on usairways.com. Please change selected cities."
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:27 am

YNG has no scheduled air service at this time.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:42 am

Open up any number of old timetables from the local service carriers like Ozark, Southern (especially them), or North Central.

Moultrie, GA
Vero Beach, FL
Titusville, FL
Ocala, FL
Stuart, FL
Waycross, GA
St. Simons Island, GA (moved over to Glynnco Jetport at Brunswick)
Crossville, TN
Anniston/Gadsden
Natchez, MS
Springdale, AR
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:44 am

The wonderful article in Airways Magazine several months ago about Texas International Airways talked about their route structure. Back in their "treetop airlines" days, they flew to:

FST Ft. Stockton
CZT Carrizo Springs/Crystal City
BWD Brownwood
MWL Mineral Wells

Once they pared down their route structure and moved from the DC-3 to the DC-9, these towns never saw scheduled airline service again.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:51 am

ORH no longer has scheduled air service after US pulled out.

LNS no longer has scheduled air service after US pulled out.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:53 am

Kinston, North Carolina (ISO)

I used to fly Piedmont 727's and 737's to Kinston both nonstop from Atlanta and from LaGuardia via Washington National. ISO was a busy airport! USAirways ended all service to Kinston and the large terminal now stands empty. Grass is beginning to grow through the cracks in the parking lot pavement. Very sad...
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:59 am

Pr1268 --

Where are you from? I'll be moving back to AUS in January.

Actually, BWD still has scheduled air service; Mesa flies 3 B1900s to DFW each day. I can't believe that FST and CZT had service back in the day -- there's nothing there now!
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:20 am

The whole State of Delaware does not have commercial air service, I think UAL at one time flew to Wilmington.

Others I can think of but Im not 100% sure about..

Bridgeport, New London, New Haven (?) Connecticut.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:23 am

At one time didn't Jackson Michigan have scheduled air service also?
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:25 am

I believe New Haven, CT has USEX but Delta Connection signed a letter of intent to serve New Haven from CVG.

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:40 am

Probably super-nonsignificant to all of you out there, but I'll throw this one in anyways since it's outside the US...  Big grin

A very small airline called Air Hudik (Hudik being the nickname of the town where their base was located) flew passengers in a Piper Navajo from ESNH to ARN a couple of times a day, but ceased operation a few years ago. They also flew charters and even had mail-service to ARN with a couple of Shorts 330's or 360's. The reason for not existing anymore is that SAS flies MD's and 737's to SDL, a city located not far away.

Too bad that these small airlines just disappear.  Sad

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:47 am

NWACREW:

I used to fly Piedmont 727's and 737's to Kinston both nonstop from Atlanta and from LaGuardia via Washington National. ISO was a busy airport! USAirways ended all service to Kinston and the large terminal now stands empty.

I remember working those PI 72s and 73s into ISO and it was a busy airport. We were always full, or close to it.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:53 am

Does anyone know if Scholes International Airport at Galveston (GLS) ever had commercial service? They claim to be an "International Airport".

Another intersting claim they make is

GLS offers two 6,001' x 150' runways able to accommodate almost any aircraft, up to a Boeing 767.
If a 767 had to make an emergency landing with most of it's fuel still on board, and a full load otherwise - 6001' doesn't leave much margin for error does it?
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:09 am

I remember working those PI 72s and 73s into ISO and it was a busy airport. We were always full, or close to it.

How does this happen? an airport that once filled 727's and 737's now has no air service at all? Hard to imagine.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:47 am

Rkmcswain -

Regarding Galveston calling themselves an International Airport. Many airports has the abbreviation INTL after the airport name on for example sectional charts. This means that it is an airport of entry (AOE) for foreign aircraft (even non-commercial).

And yeah, 6000 ft would be a tight shot for any 767 with any sort of useful load of fuel onboard...  Big grin

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:38 am

Naples, Florida (APF) lost all air service on 15 June 2003 when USAirways Express ended thier three-daily flights to Tampa. However, the lack of service was short, because on Thursday Continental Connection will launch four daily flights to Miami/MIA.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:02 am

Metro Airlines did fly into Galveston from IAH as well as CLC (Clear Lake City).
In Idaho: Coeur d' Alene, Burley, Gooding have had air service at one time. I have a June '78 AirOregon timetable,and they served 24 cities in Oregon. Today,only 7 Oregon cities receive airline service.
Also Stockton,Concord,Palmdale,Napa,San Rafel,Palo Alto,Santa Rosa,Eureka(Murray Field),Marysville,South Lake Tahoe,Ukiah,Yreka(Siskiyou Co.),Red Bluff,Borrego Springs,Palm Desert,are some California cities IO can think of now that have had airline service. Many in Nevada also,thanks to Air Chaparral in 1980 had service.
Just look through any old OAG and you will see many,many,many cities that had service.

I have an old West Coast timetable that listed an Idaho Falls to Tacoma,WA service with two connections and 11 stops: IDA-PIH-BYI-TWF-BOI xfer -ONO-BKE-LGD-ALW x fer - PSC-YKM-BFI-TAC. All in DC-3 comfort!!
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Servi

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:18 am

Mankato, MN used to have servive by Republic and later a small airline which I can't remember the name, both to MSP. Given the size the Mankato's business community, I wonder why someone like Delta Connection doesn't offer service to a market other than MSP... maybe a Mankato-CVG service.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:19 am

United Express I know in the early 80's flew into Oshkosh, WI but I don't believe they do anymore....I could be wrong
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:23 am

I know SCK, but there is rumored AA Eagle or QX service to LAX, so that would bring back air service to there.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:42 am

In Florida, the following cities have lost airline service over the past 25 years:

Ocala, Vero Beach, Ft. Pierce, Lakeland, Punta Gorda, and Marco Island.

Ocala, Vero Beach, Ft. Pierce & Lakeland all used to have daily Be-99 service to MCO on Chatauqua (US Airways Express). Punta Gorda was once frequented by DC-3s and Martin 404s of Provincetown-Boston Airways (once flying as an Eastern Airlines feeder). Marco Island once had its own airline of Martin 404s, ferrying passengers from MIA to the Marco Island resort area.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:41 am

what about Opa Locka, FL. Did they have service.

I though Marco Island has flights to EYW, can anyone confirm?

did Rome, GA ever have service?
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:13 pm

Cumberland, Maryland used to have flights until recently to Hagerstown, MD and then on too BWI. The airline was Pan Am (Boston to Main Airways).
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:56 pm

Also Stockton,Concord,Palmdale,Napa,San Rafel,Palo Alto,Santa Rosa,Eureka(Murray Field),Marysville,South Lake Tahoe,Ukiah,Yreka(Siskiyou Co.),Red Bluff,Borrego Springs,Palm Desert,

Looks like Palmdale is going to get service again. This time to LAS on Scenic starting early next year.
http://www.nbc4.tv/travelgetaways/2702404/detail.html

STS, SCK, TVL and CCR are looking at leasing a plane to be subleased to Horizon to get service to some or all of the airports.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/business/news/13airport_e1.html

A few other California airports that have had service in the past include Paso Robles, Fullerton, Salinas, Mammoth Lakes, Bishop, Livermore, and Columbia. If I think of more I'll add them.

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Servi

Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:10 pm

Dangit FATFlyer beated me to the AF Plant 42 (PMD / KPMD), USA - California">PMD punchline.  Crying

Anywho its good to see an airline serve her after UA Express left back in 98. Will be great to see that terminal active again!  Big thumbs up
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:22 pm

My apologies for slightly distorting the topic here, but how about a discussion on which is the smallest city that DOES have scheduled airline service?
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:03 pm

Winston Salem North Carolina...it all goes over to GSO now
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:15 pm

Sheffield, South Yorkshire in the UK used to have regular airline service from BA and KLM amongst others. A nice little terminal was built, but then after 9-11 everything ws pulled and i belive its mainly a heliport now. Dammit
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:07 am

Spencer, IA (SPW) Otummwa, IA (OTM) Both with Great Lakes (United Express) with Beech 1900's
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:23 am

My apologies for slightly distorting the topic here, but how about a discussion on which is the smallest city that DOES have scheduled airline service?

It has to be somewhere in Alaska. I think either Attu or Atka (sorry, Alaskans, I get them confused) in the Aleutian Island has less than 1,000 people, but still gets an Alaska Airlines 737 a few times a week due to the EAS program. Without that service, it would be completely isolated.

Hence, like several other posts, I would recommend that we say "smallest in continental US" instead. I doubt this is it, but BWD (population 19,000) gets three daily Mesa B1900s to DFW. I'm sure there's something smaller out there.

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:28 am

Not in the last 2 years, but...

Air Vermont used to fly to Berlin, NH (pop 5600) and Newport, Vermont (pop 4400) in the 80's.

http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usa/airvermont.htm
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:35 am

Mountain Home, Arkansas - served as recently as 2000 via the EAS program.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:17 am

Here is news on YNG,

"Youngstown-Warren Airport Negotiating with Flightserve to Resume Regular Passenger Service

1217/03

By Dan O'Brien

VIENNA, Ohio ­ Officials caution it's not a done deal ­ and it won't happen without a substantial cash subsidy from the Western Reserve Port Authority ­ but limited, regularly scheduled passenger service could return to the Youngstown Warren Regional Airport as soon as March.

The Board of the Western Reserve Port Authority voted unanimously Wednesday morning to allow Port Authority Chairman William Reali and Airport Director Steve Bowser to negotiate an agreement with Atlanta-based Flightserv Inc., which has expressed interest in scheduling direct, nonstop flights from Youngstown to Myrtle Beach, S.C. and Orlando, Fla.

Should negotiations be successful, Flightserv would be the first regularly scheduled passenger carrier to serve the airport since Northwest pulled out in October 2002.

"This is a step in the right direction," says Bowser, who added discussions with the carrier have been ongoing since September. "I believe this is a good product ­ we'll find some customers here."

Bowser reported the airline would be willing to run six round trips from Youngstown to Orlando and Myrtle Beach on Boeing 737 aircraft, which hold a capacity of 122 passengers. Four flights would be scheduled to and from Orlando while the Myrtle Beach flights would probably run two a week and only on a seasonal basis, from March through August or September, he says.

The only incentive that Flightserv wants, Bowser says, if for the port authority to subsidize up to $125,000 of operational costs during the first six months of service, Bowser says. "That's our limit. You have to understand that the industry is not what it used to be -- everybody subsidizes to some degree today. You can't get around that," he explains.

Flightserv offers deep discount air fares and competes in the same market as AirTran, the low-fare airline now operating at the Akron-Canton Regional Airport. Bowser indicates Flightserv's price for a one-way ticket from Youngstown could be as low as $99 to Orlando and $79 to Myrtle Beach.

Restoring regular passenger service is a priority for the cash-strapped airport, Bowser says, which has hemorrhaged financially since regular service stopped more than a year ago. The only flights departing from the airport or arriving at the Vienna Township facility are private planes or occasional charter excursions to Las Vegas or Atlantic City.

By resuming passenger service, it places the airport in a better position to secure additional federal grants, such as the $1 million Federal Aviation Administration grant the airport applied for earlier this year but did not receive, Bowser says. Part of the reason the facility was turned down was because it didn't serve the requisite number of 10,000 passengers a year.

Flightserv would "make us eligible for the $1 million and could help us with our 2005 numbers. We're looking for long-term results, not short-term," he says.

Bowser said an agreement must be struck within the next few weeks in order to begin an aggressive marketing campaign to tout the new service.

Visit Flightserv Inc. at Flightserv.com"

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:15 am

Well, checking Sabre, I find no svc to SWO, TOP, OTG, FMT, MKT, YKT, MHE or LTS. I can remember The original FL went to SWO from OKC,
NC to OTG, FMT, MKT, YKT & MHE from FSD, MSP, & OMA. Not sure who served Topeka (or which arpt, TPO or FOE), but someone did back in the 60's. But it's surprising how many smaller burgs still have limited (read B99 or similar) service. Also in the late 60's-early 70's, Altus Airlines ran a twice-a-day svc to OKC with twin Cessnas. Those were the days....
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:20 am

Coles County, Illinois airport (central Illinois), no longer has regularly scheduled commercial service. They had United Express up until a few years ago. I think their sign might even still be hanging!

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:30 am

Not sure who served Topeka

USAirways served Topeka until May 2003.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:17 am

MAH4546 - Didn't United Express serve Topeka at one point??

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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:41 am

Attu and Atka have no Alaska service. They fly to Adak Island. At height of Navy base there, the population was around 5,000. I think now it is near 200.

I think in Lower 48,one of the San Juan Islands in Washington have little population.
But if we're talking 19 pax and larger aircraft, Wolf Point,MT with 2,600 (2000 census) has to be down there in terms of size. Wonder how full those Big Sky Metros are?
Perhaps Bar Harbor,ME?
I know Midway Metrolink,Frontier,United,Capitol Air Service have flown into Topeka,KS (FOE) prior to Air Midwest/US Express.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:56 am

SprxflySWA, i have heard the metros do not go out with very much traffic at all-they are covered under the EAS grant.
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:32 pm

Danka Copaair737,I didn't figure there would be much demand there. If it wasn't for isolation,there would be no traffic at all.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:58 pm

I think someone might have mentioned ORH (Worcester, MA)...

Which is a shame... they spent a lot of money on a wonderful new $16 million terminal a few years ago. I can't remember everyone that used to be there, but I'm pretty sure over the years there was service from US Air, Northwest (a very long time ago), Delta (Connection) to ATL, Pan Am to MCO (not the "original"), Continental (Express) to Newark, American (Eagle) to Chicago...

Of course the fact that there is NO easy way to the airport from the highways aside from surface streets through small new england neighborhoods as well as being on top of a hill that's almost always fogged in... I can see why service ended.
 
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RE: What Cities/towns No Longer Have Airline Service?

Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:07 pm

PSF - Pittsfield,MA
LCI - Laconia,NH
WVL - Waterville,ME

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