emiratesa345
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Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:54 am

According to Airliner World Magazine, Virgin Atlantic Airways founder and Chairman, Sir Richard Branson has set out to beat a new world record: To fly around the world non-stop.

Today was the scheduled day for the first flight to take place, although the record breaking flight would take place in April or October next year, when the weather conditions were at their best.

His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft, in which he and his co-pilot, Steve Fosset will fly the aircraft from. This aircraft is incredibly efficient and will circumnavigate the globe with just 9 tonnes of fuel.

The flight call-sign will be Virgin 101 and is expected to fly over or near cities such as Montreal, London, Tokyo and Los Angeles.

More information on this incredible aircraft, flight and flight status can be found at http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com.


What does everyone think about this?

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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[Edited 2003-12-17 21:55:12]
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FoxBravo
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:02 am

I wish them luck!

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pixuk
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:07 am

Good luck to them both, although quite *why* RB's doing it still escapes me.

I know he's not one to avoid a publicity opportunity, however there are less risky ways of getting a headline!

Pix.
 
JBirdAV8r
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:10 am

I think it looks like a great airplane designed by a stellar designer.  Wink/being sarcastic

It's well known that SRB is a media whore...but hey, it works. I can't blame him.
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Jaspike
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:11 am

Should be interesting  Smile

The aircraft looks pretty good, but why can't they just use this... Big grin


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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:43 am

Well, Airbus certainly won't be very happy. Not only is Branson risking his life by foregoing his four engines for long haul, he's getting truly suicidal by using just one! Mon Dieu, n'est pas posible!
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:29 am

"His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft, in which he and his co-pilot, Steve Fosset will fly the aircraft from."

As far as I knew it would be a solo flight, with Fosset the primary pilot and Branson the secondary pilot (not both on the flight together)...

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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:35 am

Arright...one day VS will presemt a monkey steering five A346 at the same time...as long as press, media, TV, and a.net are full of it...
commercials for free...awesome...

still wanna fly his airline...hmmm
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pixuk
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:38 am

I wondered how long it would take for someone to post a message along those lines.
 
QantasA332
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:51 am

Nudelhirsch is right...it's just one big publicity stunt, as was Branson's bid for a Concorde, to a certain extent...

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pixuk
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:59 am

Sure, Branson is the master of the PR stunt - but he's just working the system. It goes back to his very early days of running his Student magazine and record shop - he couldn't afford the advertising but learnt that editorial was free.

He's a media man's dream, since he's always available for comment or a photo op. Other CEO's shield themselves from the press; Branson craves it. I don't see than as a bad thing - and certainly not a reason for avoiding his airline.

It seems common to bash Branson for his publicity, but I figure he's a clever businessman who is running multiple profitable businesses - including an international airline. Others who are merrily running their airlines into bankruptcy don't get nearly the same rough ride at the hands of a.net or flyertalk; but maybe that's because we don't know their names  Smile

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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:05 am

I posted a topic about this about a few weeks ago with more information. EmiratesA345 please use the search engine. http://airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1295967/6/

Tony
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:09 am

Pixuk --
Branson being "the master of the PR stunt" certainly doesn't preclude him being a clever businessman -- he certainly is a clever businessman, and he's doing well as a result!

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LZ-TLT
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RE: What With Thrust Reverse Prior To Touchdown.

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:20 am

"His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft"

Plain lie. The aircraft is (being) constructed by Scaled Composites. And SRB will definitively not the first to do this. Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager did it back in 1986 with Burt Rutan's Voyager.

Check six and get your facts straight
 
QantasA332
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:29 am

LZ-TLT, good point. I read an article about the GlobalFlyer in which it said that, but it somehow slipped my mind...thanks for noticing it.

As for it being done before, I'm afraid not -- yes, Rutan and Yeager have flown around the world, but it hasn't been done solo, as the Branson team is planning on doing.

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pixuk
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:29 am

Yup, but Nudelhirsch's comment "still wanna fly his airline" because he can work the media isn't much of an argument against, although it is a common low ball hurled at Virgin.

He overpromises on equipment upgrades (J2000 seats, double beds, etc), and that's a valid critisicm; but 'he's good at publicity'? It's a bit thin.

I'll admit I'm a Virgin customer, and I'll be the first one to yell when they screw up; but I do hate to see 'publicity-seeking' used over and over again as a reason why RB is a bad guy. Every other airline pays their PR companies a small fortune to do exactly what Branson is up to - it's just Branson is happy to use himself to get those column inches.

Pix.
 
emiratesa345
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:16 pm

"As far as I knew it would be a solo flight, with Fosset the primary pilot and Branson the secondary pilot (not both on the flight together)"

I think both will be inside. I could be wrong though. When one is sleeping, the other must control... right? Or maybe the autopilot would fly it?

"I posted a topic about this about a few weeks ago with more information. EmiratesA345 please use the search engine."

Thanks Tony. I really don't need the search engine bullshit. I did use it. Nothing came up. It sounds to me as if your upset because your thread got "0" replies.

"Check six and get your facts straight"

Get your eyes checked son. Look at the aircraft. Have you seen another one like it?

No.

Therefore it is specially designed. You get your facts straight before posting your nonsense.

I think this will be an amazing airplane, and hopefully everything will go well! This is an awesome record to beat, so why shouldn't he do it? Some say he's a master of PR stunts, I think its pure genius!

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nudelhirsch
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:29 pm

Pixuk, I didn't intend to say anything bad about Branson or his airline, actually it's sad, they don't serve my routes, so I would have three or more stops, which I don't want, I would fly Virgin any time!
I rather write my comment, to slow down or prevent any endless discussion of the project, as there was before with his concorde bid, with his bet versus BA...
I think he is a great businessman and as being one he knows how to play the media game successfully.
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JMChladek
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:19 pm

As far as I've been able to read, this will be a solo attempt. I'm guessing that Steve is the primary pilot and Richard will go only if he can get permission from his insurance company to do so. Looking at pictures of the plane, I don't see how 2 people can fit in it. Even if it was a two person attempt, it would be a record setting flight for a JET airplane as Voyager was piston engine powered. Considering Richard lost the round the world balloon race to Piccard and Fawcett's solo stint, it doesn't surprise me that he's going for something with wings this time.
 
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:45 pm

Nudelhirsch

"Arright...one day VS will presemt a monkey steering five A346 at the same time...as long as press, media, TV, and a.net are full of it...
commercials for free...awesome...

still wanna fly his airline...hmmm"

I choose to fly his Airline any day!

So tell me when was the last time you heard about Mr Geoff Dixon handing out personal checks to his (hard working) 35,000 staff? I have respect for Branson & his approach to business.

Good Luck Branson wish you all the best!
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noelg
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:23 pm

Oh dear - there he goes again!

I thought 3 weeks was a long time without a publicity stunt from RB - but he caught us out on this one!

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LZ-TLT
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RE: What With Thrust Reverse Prior To Touchdown.

Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:24 pm

EmiratesA345:

If you're bashing at me for no reason, I would suggest you to read THIS page:
http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/about_the_aircraft.html

Read carefully, and here is what you will find in the second text block:
"...The Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer looks like no other plane because it is designed to do what no other plane can. Engineered by Scaled Composites...

And about "Have you seen another one like it?"

YES. If you look carefully, you will find out that the design resembles a lot of the original Voyager design with newer elements which look very similar to other Scaled Composites designs(ie White Knight, Proteus).

The only reason the aircraft isn't mentioned on Scaled's website is their policy not to announce their projects until they have flown for the first time.

So, check YOUR eyes
 
emiratesa345
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:51 am

LZ-TLT,

No son. You need your eyes checked. What I was referring to was the style of this aircraft. The way it looks. It isn't the typical long tube with wings and engines. It is truly different.

Sure, there have been similar designs, but not the same.

Therefore, this aircraft was designed specifically for this mission.

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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LZ-TLT
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RE: What With Thrust Reverse Prior To Touchdown.

Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:06 am

Given the fact, I was several years old as you were born, it is highly interesting, how you can be my father...and I never remember my father being as retarded as you are.

And, if you bothered to read - I was referring to SRB telling lies about WHO constructed the aircraft "his team". Well, perfectly clear. SRB is the genius and Burt Rutan and all the thinking heads behind the design are just monkeys. And, even if he is referring th Scaled Composites as "his team"....since when does he have the engineering skills and owns a share in the company?
 
pixuk
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:29 am

Steady! There's no point throwing your teddies out of the pram over such minor details  Smile

Sounds more like a playground fight than a disscussion.

Pix.
 
emiratesa345
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:35 am

Thanks Pix.

It is his team. He is apart of this project, just as much as everyone else. After all, HIS airline is sponsoring it.

Son, is a saying. Nothing literal. Obviously youère the retard if you couldn't have figured that out.

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QantasA332
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RE: Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!

Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:39 am

Sorry, a bit late on this reply, but no, I do think it will be piloted solo (i.e. one person in the aircraft), with Branson a backup if Fosset is sick, etc., just before the flight...(check the website, I'm pretty sure it said).

qantasA332

PS: EmiratesA345 and LZ-TLT: relax!

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