CKT789
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Taxiing Speeds

Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:35 pm

Is there a speed limit when taxiing? I was at Gatwick and Edinburgh at the weekend and the Ryanair flights don't 'arf go for it after they land. I know that they have very short turnaround times so the quicker they get to the gate the better but I was just wondering if there was a limit.

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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:34 pm

I love Ryanair. They practically take off while taxiing to runway 10 at Dublin. Its great fun but its a pity a lot of their brakes don't sound better
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Delta767300ER
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:35 pm

Southwest seems like they taxi pretty fast to the gates/runway.

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InnocuousFox
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:49 am

"Southwest seems like they taxi pretty fast to the gates/runway."

Saves time, saves fuel...

They are also noted for making VERY short finals when there is no other traffic around. I was on an SWA flight about a year ago that made his turn from base leg about 2 miles from the runway... very impressive!

They also are quite known on the ATC channels for requesting to go direct to various points rather than the slightly jagged routings. If they can cut the corner and shave 50 miles off a flight, that saves quite a bit over time.
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boo25
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:19 am

Ryanair are legendary for one thing in the UK - mach 2 taxying Big grin
 
Tom in NO
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:26 am

As far SW cutting corners on final approaches, that is, of course, limited to those airports that don't have noise restrictions, or a minimum distance turn to final approach.

We used to kiddingly threaten to put up speed bumps in our concourse B and C alleyway to slow them down. Great fun when your flying them, a pain when your negotiating a busy ramp in a vehicle.

As far as getting a direct routing, SW flights leaving MSY westbound to SAN, LAX, LAS, and PHX will almost always get direct El Paso when initiating contact with Houston Center's mid-altitude controller. Bu that's not limited to SW. UA and F9 flights to DEN will often get direct Lamar, Colorado early on.

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InnocuousFox
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:04 am

"As far as getting a direct routing, SW flights leaving MSY westbound to SAN, LAX, LAS, and PHX will almost always get direct El Paso when initiating contact with Houston Center's mid-altitude controller. Bu that's not limited to SW. UA and F9 flights to DEN will often get direct Lamar, Colorado early on. "

Yeah, I sit here and listen to the scanner as they depart OMA for PHX. They will usually ask for direct GUP (Gallup) which is the entry point to the STAR at PHX. I've actually heard the enroute stuff request things like direct CIVET - which is about 50 nm out from LAX... quite amusing.
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SWAbubba
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:27 am

Taxi speeds aren't regulated, it's up to the judgment of the captain- they're the ones left holding the bag if they hit anything or go off the prepared surface. As long as the taxiway is dry and straight there's no reason to go slow- unless the pilots are paid by the minute. It cost us three or four minutes a few days ago when we got stuck taxiing behind another carrier going 2 mph in PVD.

We do try to cut the corners off the route when it's advantageous. Sometimes in the winter you can save time and gas by going out of your way to stay in or out of the jetstream depending on which direction you're going. I was cleared direct to MGW (the entry for the Westminster3 arrival into BWI) over New Mexico yesterday.
 
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:36 am

WN pilots are also notorious for taxiing to an earlier runway taxiway to "cut off" a few planes in front of them. Granted they have the controllers permission. I have also noticed at not so busy airports or dead times they won't even hold short. They will fire them up before they are in position. Its pretty cool to be short of the runway with the engines already spooled up.
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CanadianNorth
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:50 am

I always thought that most aircrafts taxiing go too damn slow... On FS when im taxiing on a long straight taxiway im putting alot at like 50knots which aint too bad, gotta remember to be on the brakes nice n early though...


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InnocuousFox
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:40 am

"I was cleared direct to MGW (the entry for the Westminster3 arrival into BWI) over New Mexico yesterday."

Wow... that makes for a heckuva phone call from Albuquerque Center! "Uh, I would like a direct routing for someone across... uh... 4 different centers?"
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venuscat2
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:47 am

So, what would you say is the average taxi speed for, say, a Boeing 737?
 
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RE: Taxiing Speeds

Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:53 am

"So, what would you say is the average taxi speed for, say, a Boeing 737?"

Probably on a longer haul (like running down to a departure end, no traffic) they would get up to something like 30 or 40. Most of the time, it would be 20-30, though. That's my guess.
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