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Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:21 am

What was the aircraft that crashed in The South Pacific leaving Tom Hanks to spend a great deal of time on his own in Castaway ?

I don't have the film so I can't remember other than it was a FedEx plane.

 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:24 am

well.. from memory, I believe he got on an A310.. but when it crashed in the ocean, I remember thinking it was a DC10 or MD11. I saw it twice.. but not recently.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:37 am

I seem to remember it as a DC10 or MD11 as well.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:40 am

Was an MD-11. The winglets were clearly visible, as was the glass cockpit.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:42 am

I'll have to rent out the DVD again, it was a good movie though not one of Hank's best.

I seem to remember that the flying scenes were incredibly realistic.

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Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:54 am

Best of all.....it was the first movie where an actual company was used....very good publicity for FedEx (despit the crash).
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:02 pm

I think FedEx felt redeemed by the fact that the a/c crash didn't seem to be pilot error and/or maintenance issue rather a weather event. Also, look at the care Tom Hanks had for those packages - that is the very epitome of the FedEx culture. It took him a long, long time to open them after trying to scoop them up and watch over them for days. Also, the very fact that Tom Hanks was the 'face of FedEx', a dedicated, hardworking, family oriented, organized person who was obessesed with the who FedEx mantra: time is everything. Great flick, great actor, exceptional company. A winner all around.

Not really a disaster movie but one were real airline names were used. In Close Encounters with Richard Dreyfus pilots at IND are talking to eachother to see if anyone wanted to report a UFO. They all refused. The pilots were from Allegheny and TWA.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:05 pm

I believe that the cockpit was of a 777.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:13 pm

The crash was an MD-11. The aircraft he flew home on was a Gulfstream 4.Identifiable from the oval windows, interior and shot of the flightdeck.It was in the last 15 min of the film.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:18 pm

>>>Not really a disaster movie but one were real airline names were used. In Close Encounters with Richard Dreyfus pilots at IND are talking to eachother to see if anyone wanted to report a UFO. They all refused. The pilots were from Allegheny and TWA.

Great scene, but one technical gaffe. This supposedly takes place at Indy ARTCC, but you'll notice that they mention restricted area 2508 (R-2508), which is out in California...!
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:20 pm

Great goof!!! Thanks!
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RE: 717-Doomed?

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:22 pm

I meant the first movie where a plane crashes and the airline is real!
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:32 pm

I believe that the cockpit was of a 777.

It most definitely wasn't.

It had all 6 CRTs arranged on a single plane.

The 777's LCDs are 5 across with one additional situated below the center MFD.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:36 pm

Yes, it was a DC10 or an MD11. He boarded a bus though.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:44 pm

It was an MD-11 as the cockpit had CRT's. The DC-10 has analog gauges, and the MD-10, although in design at the time, had not flown yet.

I also recall a scene just after he hits the water where you see the tail and the #2 center engine. But how stupid is it where....long after he's in the water, the still running engine tries to 'eat' him......
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:48 pm

MD11 for sure.
In fact, I think it's one of the few air disaster/ airplane movies in which the cockpit is that of the actual aircraft ( and not some fake generic cockpit)ie, the cockpit depicted actually match the aircraft depicted. I think it may have been shot in the actual flight simulator.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:57 pm

I think the airplane was probably as realistic as any Hollywood plane, but I did have some problems with the realism. I doubt that a plane could encounter enough weather related turburlance to take down an aircraft at cruise altitude, and Fed Ex almost has the capacity to tell when a driver picks his nose when delivering a package. I would guess that it would be known where the plane went down.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:08 pm

The still running engine on a DC-10/MD-11 has happened in fact. When the World Airways DC-10 ran off the end of the runway into Boston Harbor in 1981, the cockpit section broke off into the water and one of the problems in evacuating the aircraft was that the #2 engine kept running, making a lot of noise. They couldn't shut it down. So the movie was realistic in that aspect.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:15 pm

MD-11. No doubt. The Bus he got on probably dropped him off on the west coast and he then boarded the MD-11. Well, hypothetically speaking of course.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:34 pm

I doubt that a plane could encounter enough weather related turburlance to take down an aircraft at cruise altitude, and Fed Ex almost has the capacity to tell when a driver picks his nose when delivering a package.

Where the plane crashed is not where Tom Hanks's character remained. He went to an empty island, he didn't stay at the crash site.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:32 pm

Some things to get straight here:

The A310 Tom Hanks boarded was at the very beginning when he flew back to MEM. That flight didn't crash. He spent a couple of days in MEM and then was called to get on another flight, this time, the MD-11, of which it never showed him actually board. The cockpit shown during the crash scene was none other than an MD-11.

The weather did not cause the crash. At the end of the movie, Helen Hunt says something about some type of hazardous cargo caught fire and burst.



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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:42 pm

Awesome movie, loved the cockpit scenes.

Definately an A310 for the first jet scene, note the other Scarebus adjacent to it as they're boarding.

It was the M11 that crashed  Sad Good flightdeck scenes, loved the WX radar touch, even tho it was a nasty weather picture! (to us pilots)

I especially loved the end...when they're at the FedEx Hub in MEM, and you see that huge line of M11/DC10 tails, and those ones taxiing by...oooh bliss!  Big thumbs up

Why is it that pilots always die in movies?  Sad Only one I can think of where they didn't was Airplane...but that's just a comedy lol.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:46 pm

I havent seen this movie, but it is now on my "to see" list...


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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:48 pm

Boarded an A310, crashed in an MD-11. There.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:06 pm

Also, they were 200 miles off course as stated when the turbulence first started. The F/O was trying to contact Tahiti Control to give them a position update, but was unable to contact them. That is why they couldn't find him.

About the #2 engine, technically it shouldn't be running. If you look at the speed the fan is spinning, it wouldn't be running since you can see the individual fan blades.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:53 pm

You should see it CanadianNorth, very moving film and superbly shot as I remember. I believe it was made by none other than that genius Robert Zemeckis.

I won't spoil the ending for you though.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:00 pm

Well, take a look if there is an FE. If no, then M11. And lets not get into the whole MD10 thing. Ok, nevermind, just look for winglets
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:11 pm

DC-10/MD-11/ A300 /310 are the best cargo´s to fly.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:46 am

But how stupid is it where....long after he's in the water, the still running engine tries to 'eat' him......

As I recall, it was only a few seconds after he was in the water... Besides, if there is still electrical power to the fuel pumps and the engine hasn't been submerged, there's no reason why the engine couldn't keep running after impact (assuming the aircraft didn't break up).

I would guess that it would be known where the plane went down.

You're telling me that there's radar out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, 2000 miles from nowhere?

FedEx (and the various governments who had a copy of the flight plan) probably had an idea where the plane was, but not an exact location, especially in bad weather.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:00 am

I don't remember details, since it's been a while since I saw the movie, but I seem to remember thinking that the route of flight was a bit unrealistic. Wasn't he supposed to be going to KUL or somewhere in SE Asia? If so, what were they doing down near Tahiti?
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:06 am

I think they were going to SYD, not sure though.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:48 am

I believe they deviated because of the WX...listen to what the Capt said, "make your deviation plot left"...they knew, ATC didn't.

Not sure why at least a coupla of the crew couldnt'a gotten out...well it was Cast Away lol.....implies solo survival. I don't think the cockpit windows would have imploded like that?

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:00 am

Best of all.....it was the first movie where an actual company was used...


Probably because FedEx is a freight carrier. Boxes don't stop booking seats if they think the airline isn't going to get them there in one piece.

I'm not sure FedEx would have been as keen if it had been a passenger carrier.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:07 am

I agree, a box is not going to refuse to board the aircraft! I think the way Tom dealt with what happened and how he treated the boxes showed that FedEx is a first class company.

Now if only Parcel Force in the United Kingdom was that good!

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:15 am

I think to remember that he got on an A310, flew on a 727 and chrashed with an MD-11.
But I only saw it once when it still was at the movies.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:51 am

The best part of the whole movie.....Hanks line "Tennessee has a pro football team,....and their in Nashville...???"""
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:25 am

About the #2 engine, technically it shouldn't be running. If you look at the speed the fan is spinning, it wouldn't be running since you can see the individual fan blades.

...not to mention that the #2 engine fan sits some twenty feet back in the duct on the real aircraft...

Gotta love Hollywood, they never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:19 am

Regarding the #2 engine issue, here is what the NTSB said in their report of the World Airways accident in Boston Harbor. Note that the entire cockpit had broken off the aircraft and fallen forward into the water, yet the #2 engine continued to run.

"As Flight 30H entered the water, the wing-mounted engines were flooded and stopped running; however, the centerline engine continued to run at full reverse thrust.

The No. 2 engine continued to run at full power with reversers extended for
about 30 minutes after the airplane entered the water.

Firemen discharged fire extinguishing agents into the No. 2 centerline engine intake in an unsuccessful attempt to stop the engine as the occupants began to evacuate the airplane.

The No. 2 engine had continued to run throughout the evacuation, and in
addition to the problems created as the reverse thrust twisted the rafts, the engine noise hampered verbal communications. At the request of a fireman, the flight engineer returned to the airplane over the right wing, reentered the fuselage through the overwing hatch, and proceeded to the forward cabin in an attempt to identify the No. 2 engine control cables. However, at that time, the engine began to surge and it stopped running. The flight engineer then returned to shore. The engine had run for 30 to 40”minutes after the airplane entered the water.

The most significant hindrance to the evacuation was the continued operation of the No. 2 engine at full reverse thrust. The engine noise caused confusion among flight attendants and passengers in the rear cabin which delayed the initiation of the evacuation and hindered effective communication between flight attendants and passengers. The air flow from the No. 2 engine presented further difficulties when it caused the deployedslide/rafts to twist."
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:42 am

I can't remember. . .if it was an MD-11, why was Tom Hanks aboard? After all, he was a flight engineer if I remember correctly. And I don't think the MD-10 needs a flight engineer. I remember a glass cockpit though, so I think a little Hollywood "spin" was put into motion in this one. Or was Tom just flying as a deadhead. How many crew members were in the cockpit?

Don't mean to bring this topic all the way to the front again. . .but these questions are bugging me. . .
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:54 am

Dude, Tom Hanks was not a flight engineer. He wasn't deadheading, hell he wasn't even a pilot. He was travelling on COBUS in the passenger area of the MD-11F. When the movie was produced, the MD-10 didn't exist yet and there were different rules governing the open cockpit door, especially on freighters.

 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:02 am

"Dude, Tom Hanks was not a flight engineer."

Okay. The movie review I read refered to Tom as the flight engineer. So, if he wasn't. . .then that's fine. Thanks for the answer, dude.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:07 am

It was on here over Christmas. I enjoyed watching it. Still unsure about what type of aircraft it was, as I missed the beginning. I turned it on just as the plane hit the water.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:15 am

Well I guess we'll all find out in about 20 minutes as Castaway is on ABC right now..........
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:17 am


Look at the cockpit windows before he boards the plane. It is an A300-600F.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:28 am

Guys............. IT IS JUST A MOVIE!!!! The name says it all!  Smile

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:40 am

And it's on ABC tonight (05JAN04). At least here in PHX it is on right now.
 
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:54 am

Its on right now too ( Michigan ). In fact, just finished the airplane crash.

Heres what happend:

He heads to MEM on an A300/310 ( Cant tell but based on what the cockpit looked like it was clearly one of these ).

Couple days pass... he has christmas dinner with relatives.

He gets a call on his beeper during christmas dinner to report to MEM for a flight across the pacific. So he leaves with his wife. They are near the ramp at MEM airport, at the front entrance to the ramp theres a large A300/A310 sitting there being loaded.

He says his goodbyes, blah blah, and starts walking towards the entrance, straight ahead towards an A300/A310.

They never showed him boarding that particular plane. He probably went through the entrance and boarded an MD-11 somewhere else on the ramp.

The next scene he's sitting in a jumpseat on the MD-11. A pilot jumps out of one of the bunkbeds in the back. Tom hanks asks " So where are we? ", Pilot says " Somewhere over the pacific ", Tom hanks replies " You pilots sure are funny ( laugh laugh ) ".

So Tom gets up, walks to the cockpit. The first officer is yelling " Tahiti control, tahiti control, how do you read? Tahiti control this is Fedex 88 how do you read? ". The captain says " Well i just plotted where we are, it looks like we're 200 miles south of course ".

So Tom hanks walks to the bathrom. Washes himself up. While the water is running, BAM, the door blasts open, and he's flying sideways holding onto the door. Wind is blowing all over inside the cabin, everything shaking violently.

They switch views to the cockpit, on the overhead panel, ENG1 red fire warning is emitted. One pilot yells " EXPLOSION!!! " The captain takes care of the ENG1 fire, the next thing they're getting on the lifevests, etc.

And blah blah blah from there on. But basically thats what happend.

There IS an error in the movie though. While flying, and at cruise altitude in that MD-11, they're flying through Cumulonimbus clouds ( storm clouds ). Those types of clouds are low-level lying ( 1000-6000 feet tops usually ). The highest clouds in the sky are cirrus, which are harmless, whispy clouds, max out as high as 29000 feet, but 90% of the time no higher than that, and they dont produce any type of bad weather at all.

So clearly, in order to fly through those cumulonimbus clouds like they did in the movie, they must have been cruising very, very low. This is like my 6th time viewing this movie and thats the first time i noticed that too...lol, guess it takes a while to find some errors.
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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:03 pm

How ironic, it was just on TV tonight.

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:11 pm

Warszawa,

WOW! That was a real good description and explanation of the whole situation! Good stuff!

I had completely forgotten the movie since I had not seen it since it came out at the theaters. I was going to watch it but also forgot that it was on this evening. I just logged on here and read all the good articles so that was as good if not better than watching the movie!

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RE: Tom Hanks Castaway Crash

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:18 pm

"Cumulonimbus clouds ( storm clouds ). Those types of clouds are low-level lying ( 1000-6000 feet tops usually ). "

Alright, I will be the first to admit, I am no meteorologist. However, your statement is wrong. Cumulonimbus clouds (Thunderstorms) can have cloud tops in excess of 40,000 feet. Sometimes, flying over storms is not an option. That's why you deviate around them. By your logic, at FL310, you'd be over top any kind of imaginable cloud formation, leaving nothing but open sky. Impossible.