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Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:21 pm

I know it sounds like a dumb question, but are there any airlines in the USA that are made up of only non-union workers? Do you think that it could ever happen - like perhaps if a new airline formed and hired all its workers? Is there a successful model anywhere of a non-union airline?

just curious...

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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:33 pm

HI!!!

Mesa, ATA, FLG?, WDY, Air midwest, F9?

There's probably more, but I can't think of any more at the moment.
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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:39 pm

That many???? FLG: I thought Pinnacle had unions, as i remember reading something recently about their pilot (?) group. I did not think that non-union employee airlines were common.

Is F9 Frontier non-union? Thats surprising because they are quite successful, and in some jobs their pay is higher than union counterparts. But those others are pretty much Regionals so if you go that route you could end up spending your whole career working RJ's or smaller.

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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:41 pm

JetBlue is non union. I don't know how long they'll stay that way. It's only about three years old. If it keeps going like it is, it can probably avoid being unionized.

Southwest and airTran are both unionized.

Legacy Carrier Delta only has one union on its property, the pilots represented by ALPA. Delta is bleeding to death, but it only has one union.
 
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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:42 pm

Isn't Delta non-union as well? If not them, I'm pretty sure on of the majors isn't union...
 
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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:13 pm

Being as big as Delta is, I'm surprised their flight attendants, mechanics, operations people aren't organized. I thought that organized labor was pretty much the standard for most airlines.


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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:16 pm

Delta's dispatchers are unionized as well. It's not only the pilots.

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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:17 pm

Bruce:

Being as big as Delta is, I'm surprised their flight attendants, mechanics, operations people aren't organized. I thought that organized labor was pretty much the standard for most airlines.

For decades Delta had a wonderful corporate culture that kept unions off the property. Delta was absolutely legendary for it's excellent treatment of its employees -- all of them. It showed, too.

Now Delta has simply become notorious. That shows, too.
 
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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:18 pm

AA Res/Support Staff/Airport Agents are non-union.

[Edited 2003-12-31 06:19:00]
 
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RE: Airlines And Unions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:25 pm

TokyoNarita:

Delta's dispatchers are unionized as well. It's not only the pilots.

Thanks for the info. The only ones I knew about were the pilots.  Smile