737Captain
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An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:53 pm

Why does everybody seem to hate mesa air?
I certainly hope that many of you are not so quick to judge, Despite mesa's downfalls in the past, i believe we are doing awesome. I have recently noticed many people saying it is not hp's fault that they have a bad reputation, but in fact that it is yv's fault. That is far from the truth, while they sit back and complain about yv's service they should stand up and work on theres. i recently recieved an email stating that mesa is beating hp in on-time performance, missed bag ratings, and completed flights, among other things. What's even more amazing that we are doing this while being understaffed by 50% on a daily basis in phoenix. I dont know about you, but i believe it is pretty incredible that we operate over 115 flights daily out of phx and still happen to have an on time performance rating of 97% while only missing 5-6 bags out of the thousands we handle daily. Most of the time those missed bags are not our fault, it's pretty tough to pull up to an hp jet, get boxed in, sort throught a 6ft high pile of bags, and run them to the connecting planes in 40 min. especially when you have to pick up bags from about 5 hp jets each bank, quite amazing if you ask me! Meanwhile even our most experienced agents are paid less than half the salary of a hp agent, and does twice the work, i've heard agents complain about having 4 planes to work all day, 4 planes!? i work 14 planes a day, granted they are smaller, but let me tell you, it's not easy loading 100 bags onto a plane by yourself, meanwhile monitering passengers and interacting with the unhappy ones as they board the plane and find out they are flying a regional jet to canada, and that their bag wont fit in the overhead bins! I just believe that mesa employees work their butts off on a daily basis and all we get in return is all the blame for hp's downfalls, considering everything we go through i believe it is an injustice for yv to take such a bad wrap, and hp employees and the general public should try to see the other side before blaming us. Dont get me wrong, i love hp, and am proud to work under the awa titles, but c'mon guys, give me a break, i think we do an outstanding job with what we've got.
best regards,
737Captain
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Prinair
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:18 pm

I disagree...HP needs to get rid of Mesa asap....

I could post reasons but it would be too lengthy...
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:26 pm

Mesa sucks and will always suck. HP is a far better airline then YV and most of the issues at HP now is Mesa's ops. HP employees are not that well paid starting at 7.50/hr and tops at around 15/hr and some change. 4 757's is far harder then 14 CRJ's or Dash 8's. When I was in SAN HP cancelled around 1 flight a month where as YV did about 2-3 a week and sometimes a day. YV is a crappy airline and HP should of dumped them at kept RP or another regional carrier. I worked in PHX for HP on the ramp for over a year and going to the Mesa side is an absolute joke and they never come to get their bags, it becomes funny after awhile watching the YV people its like a circus and I wont step foot on one of their planes after what I saw working YV flights and what HP MX crews told me.
 
Dalmd88
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:42 pm

I worked At Midway Connection in 94. Not one of the greatest operations, but nothing went out the door unless it was right. We received some used Be-1900 from Mesa. Talk about flying pieces of Sh*$. To this day I'll ride Greyhound before I'll step foot on one of their airplanes.
 
NLINK
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:31 am

It has got to be the cheapest and worst run airlines in the USA, with a close running with Trans States. I have never seen an airline run such a horrible operation before. I would personally never fly them as I am concerned also about there safety record.
 
737Captain
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:05 am

maybe i was a little misunderstood here, and it was my fault for not expressing my point well enough. What i was trying to get across is that despite the less than great management, the only reason mesa survives is because of the hard working employees, i guess i was just trying to say that dont give the hard working employees such a bad wrap, after all, it seems that we all understand what they are working with, and it isnt much!
Thanks,
737Captain
P.s. While i no longer work for mesa, i have worked for HP and i must say that i'd take 1 757 over 5 rj's any day, so i'm not trying to pick a fight, just trying to let ya'll see the other side. Happy New Years!
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N670UW
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RE: An Injustice Of YV Proportions

Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:55 pm

YV's PHX on-time may be okay, but have you checked PIT or CLT lately?  Yeah sure



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