MYT332
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Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:07 pm

The body of a man was found Tuesday in the wheel well of a plane that landed at John F. Kennedy International Airport from London's Heathrow Airport, authorities said.

Port Authority police found the body of a man believed to be in his 30s on British Airways Flight 177 after the plane landed at about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday, according to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.


How about that then? Why would he have been up there, trying to get a free flight to New York or could he have been ground crew? Kind of strange, kind of sad, kind of dumb??
Your thoughts??

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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:30 pm

WOW scary!!! He was in the wheel of the plane??? If he was there for the 6hr journey from LHR to JFK he probably frooze up or something similiar. Does anyone know how did he get there???

WOW!

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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:38 pm

IIRC, the wheel wells aren't pressurized. He would have died from Hypoxia before freezing to death.
 
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:11 pm

From a security point of view, this is scandalous! The guy could have decided to blow up the plane and become a martyr. Doesn't make you any more confident of flying when you hear these kind of stories does it?
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:23 pm

Some more info, the plane was a B747 and had been in Lagos, Nigeria on Christmas Eve! They believe the Nigerian man climbed in the wheel well here and presumably had been flying around with the a/c since that date up until Tuesday.

I'm going to post the link to the story since the information keeps getting updated.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/12/31/plane.death/index.html

Would you believe that this was the second incident involving a stowaway in a planes wheel well at JFK within a week. A Jamaican man was found dead onboard an AA flight from MBJ last week!
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:24 pm

It is unbeliveable that he was able to (a) gain access to the ramp area, and (b) "successfully" insert himself into the wheel well of the aircraft, fully undetected.....at Heathrow no-less !

Not a great moment for secutity given current events etc..
 
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:31 pm

It's pretty scary from a security point of view if this sort of thing happens at LHR. Where is all the security?

No number of Air marshals on board can stop a bomb placed in the wheel compartment from exploding!!

BTW, I remember reading in the papers some year's ago a man actually survived the journey from (I am not too sure if it was from India/Pakistan). Was found walking on the tarmac at LHR in a confused state. It's a miracle how he survived the extremes of temperatures when the wheel was retracted (The extreme heat from the tyres) and then the sub zero temperatures during the flight!



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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:43 pm

I would agree with MYT332. I really, really doubt that the person in question was boarded at LHR. With security there it would be fairly difficult, if not impossible to climb up into the wheel well unnoticed. However, if the person worked at LHR it could be possible, although doubtful. I would tend to agree that whoever the poor chap was, he had flown around for at least a few flights before being discovered at JFK
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:44 pm

Strange story that some corpse is in a wheel compartment for several flights. Doesn't the captain and maintanance check tyres, engines etc. before each flight? Wouldn't a corpse fall out during touch down impact (landing)or before when the gear bays open? Wouldn't a coprse being sqeezed when wheels are put up during take-off? And if there is ample space for that, it would be for sure a good place to hide a bomb or drugs. Obvious nobody checks it out!
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:53 pm

This is really nothing new to the aviation scene. It happens very often.

People that are really desperate even try to get a free ride that way.

I remember a dead person being found in the woods surrounding the Frankfurt/Main airport. The strange thing was that the person a) was frozen (something like minus 50°C) and b) was found right on the flightpath to one of the runways.

Also have a look at the comment of this picture.

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I always ask myself how they hold on while the gear is pulled up or released as there are quite a few parts "moving" at that moment and that makes it hard to hold on to anything.
This only shows the wheelbay of a 738 (I guess that it is larger on the big birds) but it kinda shows what I mean...

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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:56 pm

It looks like the man got into the wheel well at Murtala Mohammed Airport in Lagos, which isn't too shocking considering the appaling state of that airport.

Assuming the man did get in at Lagos it's quite worrying that he went unnoticed whilst the plane was at Heathrow.
 
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:28 am

Christ, this is the second time in a week this has happened. First a Jamaican guy is found dead in the wheelwell of an AA plane as a stowaway, and now this. Freaky things are starting to happen now. Who knows, this guy might have been trying to sneak on board and hijack the plane. It is a common strategy for doing this, though rather risky since you would freeze to death in the process. This guy probably got the idea from the Jamaican. It is a sign to me Al Qaeda may be planning to go skyward again with their lplans.
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:32 am

I guess were still "the world's favourite airline" for stow away's.


 
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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:40 am

In the wheel well photo above i see a "ledge" where someone could lay down it appears, and there isn't anything moving. Look on the right side of the photo.

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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:45 am

Everyone is focusing on the potential terrorist implications of wheel-well riding, but none of these people have been proven to be terrorists, just poor, desperate people from the 3rd world trying to get somewhere for free. While security should of course prevent it, these are just the 21st century equivalent of stowaways romanticized by alot of books and movies. As 2004 approaches, I think it's very sad that there are still people so poor and desperate that feel they have to resort to this, only to end up dead.

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RE: Man Found Dead On BA 177

Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:55 am

One thing that amazes me, is why people have to stay in the wheelwell. On most planes, the EE compartment is very easily accesible, and it is heated and pressurized.
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