MAH4546
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Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:50 am

Just uploaded, Delta's new Atlanta-St. Lucia service:

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DL 451 ATL 0956-1429 MoSu 738
DL 450 UVF 1539-2010 MoSu 738
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:36 am

Sounds cool! I'll get my bags packed and break out the sunscreene!  Smile
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scottysair
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:21 am

This is great news for DL and keeping add more caribbean flight on their way to UVF. Is that was first time ever? I know US Airways was already operate on these flight, too.
 
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:28 am

With what type of a/c? Also, isnt their a Club Med resort there? Will it be subsidized? What is the traffic mix? Mostly, tourist or some local mix too?
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captaink
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:03 am

Yeah there is a Club Med in St Lucia. I heard that another US carrier would be starting service into Grenada this year too. I know Continental has picked up Barbados and Trinidad, Delta grabbed St Lucia, I wonder which of the two is going for Grenada?
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:21 am

The first post indicates a 738.

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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:37 am

This is good that DL is getting down that way.

I wish DL could compete more with AA in this region, but AA's service is just oustanding in the region.

But in looking at AA's timetable, does Eagle fly to another aiport in St. Lucia, SLU?
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captaink
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:55 am

Eagle flies to a ton of caribbean islands. THe second most frequent north american airline service is US Airways. They (US Airways) fly to GCM, MBJ, PUJ, SDQ, STT, STX, ANU, SKB, UVF, GND, BGI SXM and La Romana. I wonder if DL or CO can compete with that easily. I think too much carriers are going to overwelm the market here, and no one will make money and all will pull out. The region is doing fine with AA and US alone. THey both make money. Eagle is on a gold mine, the ATR's are cheap to operate. US Airways uses the A319 to most islands under normal circumstances, the A320 and 757 on peak times. THe A319 is perfect for most islands like GND. THey are easy to fill. ANd a full 120 passengers on a A319 on a 4.5 hour trip, I think the airline does ok.

Eagle flies to SLU, that is a small airport in the city. It cannot handle bigger jets, but most regional and turboprop service goes to SLU. UVF (Hewanorra Int't) is in the south of the island very far from the city, but that is where all the international traffic flies to.
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MAH4546
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:00 am

Yeah there is a Club Med in St Lucia. I heard that another US carrier would be starting service into Grenada this year too. I know Continental has picked up Barbados and Trinidad, Delta grabbed St Lucia, I wonder which of the two is going for Grenada?

It may be American Airlines (only Eagle currently flies to GND). American Airlines is considering launching service from Miami to Grenada, St. Lucia/UVF, and St. Kitts this year. GND and UVF were served from MIA in the past, but AA canceled in protest, I believe, to raised landing fees. Though at that time there was no other domestic airline compietition from the mainland US like Delta and USAirways now have, which is why the are re-evaluating service from MIA.
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:00 am

Interesting post above.......contrary to what we normally hear about caribbean services where most complain that AA/Eagle dominates the market, overcharges and provides only mediocre service.

I think that a little competition is needed in the caribbean, and most of the new US and DL flights are modest offerings with service only 2 or 3 times per week. Via ATL, DL offers a world of connection possibilities which will bring new tourists, a good thing. CO, by expanding service in the caribbean, if providing some competition to the islands.......so many have complained about high fares that this should be looked as a positive step.
 
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:20 am

Actually, I'm sure that CO and DL would both be very happy to force US Airways out of the islands given that Caribbean flying has been one of the few bright spots for US of late. With WN about to hit them at PHL, this might well be the time for them to really try to put the final nails in the coffin. Given that CO and DL are two of the largest carriers on the East Coast, they'd both benefit from US (hypothetically) going out of business.
 
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:21 am

Sweet. Maybe they'll save a few seats open for us non-rever's  Smile Great hear weve added another flight. Always great to expand. Keep the blue side up!

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captaink
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:25 am

High fares is one thing, but with a heap of low fares are the airlines going to profitable? Will the service continue?

Let me let you in on a little AA secret. AA didnt pay landing fees at Grenada. That was part of the agreement for them to serve Grenada. In the later of the 10 years of service, AA got 2.5 million a year in subsidies for the flights until the GND government said they wont do it, AA pulled out.

Poor struggling US AIrways isnt getting these things, in the fact no airline currently requests such things from our government.

JM has 10 weekly flights and no subsidies. 4 to JFK from MBJ, and 6 from MBJ to JFK.

Anyhow, I want to see how the politics of all this will play out when the airlines decide on starting service.
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RE: Delta Starting Atlanta-St. Lucia

Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:20 am

This I got with their news was came in today and here it is:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040106/cltu055_1.html

This is one for you, Mark (MAH4546)!!

Regards!

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