757lgw
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BA LGW Fleet Change

Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:55 pm

I have just notice that BA short hall flights from LGW seem to be changing from 737's to A319's. Does any one know about this or have any other information. Are BA getting rid of their B737's.

This information comes from:

http://www.britishairways.co.uk/flightTimetable.servlet
and
http://www.baa.com/main/airports/gatwick/gatwick_flight_information/flight_departures_frame.html
 
757lgw
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:57 pm

sorry i forgot to mention that on the 2nd link you have to click on the flight timetable on the right
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:25 am

BA are getting rid of their 737s and going for an all-Airbus narrowbody fleet. The 757s are on their way out as well.

Here are the links you posted...

http://www.britishairways.co.uk/flightTimetable.servlet

http://www.baa.com/main/airports/gatwick/gatwick_flight_information/flight_departures_frame.html
 
757lgw
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:38 am

thanks for that shamrock 747 that is really sad to hear i will miss the 737 and 757.
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:49 am

It was my understanding that the 734s would remain in the BA fleet for a good number of years (BA has a bunch of leased 735s and 733s that are likely to leave to fleet as the A32X delilveries proceed - these aircraft were leased to bridge the gap between the 732s and some 757s being retired and the A32X fleet eing available in full force.)

I also thought that the remaining 757-200s that are now in the BA fleet (the newer examples with -535E4 engines) would also remain in the BA fleet for shorter haul high denisty routes - especially out of LHR.

Have these plans changed?
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:07 am

Word on the street is as follows;

Once all B737s have been replaced by A319/320s at LHR, BA will begin deploying Airbuses at LGW where they are already operated by franchise GB Airways.

Apparently 4 Airbuses to be LGW based from W2004/05, in place of some B737-300/-500 aircraft.

The displaced B737s are then expected to return to MAN where they were based before the Avro RJ100s took over. Expect to see other types disappear (ie Avros etc) before you see any significant reduction to the B737 fleet, these aircraft are relatively young, and have the right capacity and economics for their route network.

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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:18 am


I wonder if the 737s coming back to MAN may be something to do with them stating that they want to become an all-jet operation after 2005? Presumably the ERJ145s and RJ100s may be operated on domestic services replacing DHC8s with the 737s going on some of the current European RJ100 services?

David
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 3:02 am

David,
That's possible, but it's no secret that BA wants rid of the Avros full stop. If they can get rid of them, the props will probably be replaced by a combination of new/used Embraers, with the routes that aren't viable for BACX with an ERJ going to another airline. Eastern Airways anyone?  Innocent

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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:17 am

I thought the 733s and 735s had now left the BA fleet, hence the reason LGW-NCL is now all 734?
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:19 am

When ever I fly from EGKK I often see lots of British Airways Boeing 737-300's.

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757lgw
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:26 am

No the 733 and 735 are still in service
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:26 am

Nevermind, seems that from Summer 04 NCL-LGW will be all 735s.
Aye, just found some recent pics of the 733s and 735s of BA

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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:34 am

I sure hope BA don't get rid of all their 737's (and their 757's for that matter).
I am booked on two BA flights for next September which are operated by 737's (MAN>LGW>MUC) and can't wait.

I think its a shame that BA are going for Airbus's, I have always felt that Boeing aircraft, especially the 737/757 have much more character to them than a A319/A320.

Adam
 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:45 am

BA used to have some 757s based at LGW a few years ago didnt they?
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:57 am

BA only have 16 A320 family aircraft left on firm order (Though numerous options), namely 3 A319s, 3 A320s and 10 A321s (due Nov '04 to Dec '05).

The 737 fleet meanwhile consists of 5 733s (leased), 25 734s (1 leased) and 10 735s (leased). In addition 13 757s remain in use at LHR alongside the 10 original ex-BCal A320s. Basically we need to see further A320 family orders before the 737s disappear. My guess would be that if A319s are moving to LGW it is to allow the 733s and 735s to return to their lessors, with LHR moving towards a mixed 734/757/A320/A321 operation.

The 735s were leased as a short term solution to the need to find a 732 replacement at BA regional. With BA having cancelled its A318 orders in favour of the A321s it only really leaves extended leases for the 735s or the transfer of A319s to LGW.
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:36 am

BA's 757's are getting old. They were among the first airlines to start flying them. I flew a BA 757 from LHR to EDI in January 1998 and the plane was filthy inside and out and tatty.

 
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:43 am

Continental EWR - BA's remaining 13 757s were delivered 1990-91/94-99

All the early 757s were sold to DHL for SF conversion
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:48 am

Yes, BA's 757s are getting on a bit.

I have had the pleasure of flying several BA 757s over the years. The first, when I was quite young, was in 1983 - my first 757 flight. Actually, it was operated by Air Europe but it was a BA 757 and had the full BA livery (except for the AE titles). This aircraft was obviously quite new, perhaps less than a year old, and was in the pre-Landor colours. Awesome! I thought it was a great plane and remember being amazed at how quiet it seemed!

I also remember flying a BA 757 years later, perhaps 1998 or so, from LHR to MAN. Basically this is a shuttle run and the interior was starting to show its age from the hard use. Still, I like the 757 and enjoyed the short hop, which included a hot meal. No 40-minute flight gets you anything like that in the USA! I took the reverse of this flight in 2001 and it was operated by an A320. Oh well!
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RE: BA LGW Fleet Change

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:23 pm

On my return trip from LHR to MAN on 22nd Dec 03 the flight was operated by an ex Caledonian 757 (G-BPEC).

I thought that aircraft was a bit scruffy and 'worn' for a BA aircraft - starting to show its age probably. Was still a nice flight though.

Adam