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Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:26 am

Most of my low cost flights to date have been on LBA-DUB with Ryanair and all things considered (especially the price), I have been pretty pleased with them.

However, in a few days time I will be flying WW for the first time on their MAN-GVA route and wondered if anyone has flown both bmibaby and Ryanair and which you preferred?

Would have ultimately preferred to fly Jet2 over both of them but as I only had to pay £30 return incl taxes for flying with WW then there was no contest!

Any comments appreciated.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:36 am

I've flown both
MAN - DUB on Ryanair and EMA - AMS on bmibaby
Not much between them really as flights weren't that long but i preferred Bmibaby over Ryanair purely because the cabin crew seemed friendlier and service was better - even got some freebie food!

Mark

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:46 am

Thanks Demoose.

I have just re-read my original post and before anyone mentions it, I know that Ryanair do not fly to GVA. I just mean't that I would choose Jet2 from LBA over any of the other LCC's had the prices been similar when I booked as I have been impressed with them previously.

Any more comparisons between WW and FR would be most appreciated.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:48 am

Ofcourse the Cabin Crew on Baby are friendlier!! - I'm one of them!!!  Big grin
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:59 am

Ahh maybe you were on my flight last summer  Wink/being sarcastic - i only saw one male member of cabin crew though, unlike your bigger brother/father Bmi where I ended up on an A320 flight with an all male crew. I reckon bmibaby could do with changing their uniform though, aren't they made of the material usually associated with a baby sleep suit!
I noticed that the crew do take the safety demo extremely seriously and will actively go up to passengers requesting their full attention.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:05 am

I think u may get seat allocation on Bmibaby.
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:46 am

Watch out for a new uniform in the Spring, meant to be really nice!!! Yes you get seal allocation and we do take the demo serious, afterall it is for you comfort and safety!!  Big grin
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:54 pm

Simon you were on my flight last year back from BRU to EMA.

I have flown FR to MMX, HHN x 2 and TRN. All flights were what you would expect for £20 inc taxes per destination to all destinations. Good but not overly friendly cabin crew.

bmibaby have been the best yet. I have tried Buzz, baby, Ryanair, Go, Easyjet and all goo but Go and bmibaby did stand out above the rest.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:25 pm

I've flown both, bmiBaby MUC-CWL-MUC, Ryanair a total of 23 flights throughout Europe. I enjoyed both airlines very much. BmiBaby offers flights to the "real" airports - however Ryanair fares were always very cheap, so it's okay to drive a little in order to get to/from the airport.
Seat assignment on bmiBaby is a nice feature, though - but on the other hand I never had problems to get my window seat on Ryanair.
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:37 pm

I have flown with FR many a time from CWL but that was only on the DUB route... FR Nearly always on time, ok service, ok planes... that's all I can say about FR.. they're OK!

On the other hand..

I have flown with WW from CWL to.. AGP, ALC, PMI, GVA, CDG, EDI, PIK and ORK... should be flying to PRG and TLS in February!

All my flights have departed either on time or departed earlier, the aircraft has always been very clean and well maintained, excellent service from the cabin crew and the planes.. well always been on the 733.. it's a nice enough aircraft a lot better than FR's 732's..

Is there any chance of WW getting some new planes?

Maybe the 737NG or A319..

Also..anyone know of any new routes with WW?

Regards..
Chris

P.S. Simon where are you based? Is it EMA, CWL, MAN or MME?
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:20 pm


It depends what way you like to fly. I have never flown Bmibaby but I always fly Ryanair.

I prefer walking out to my plane so as I can take good pictures and appreciate the size and power of the aircraft.
I also like the fact that I can sit where I want.

I believe WW tell you where to sit. I know that in Dublin WW aircraft are always boarded by air bridge.

I have also found Ryanair to be the cheapest airline as I am flying from DUB-CRL(Brussels) return on wednesday for 2 nights and the entire return flight including tax is 12 euro
which is about 8 pound. Pretty cheap

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:29 pm

bmibaby are taking delivery of 7 737-300's in the next few months, they are disposing of 5 737-500's. WW have got mixed flight reviews on Carsurvey http://www.carsurvey.org/air/airline_bmibaby.html.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:37 am

To be honest, it depends on how many sectors the cabin crew on your flight have already done when you board the aircraft for your flight, what time they got up that morning, how much they love their job, and what kind of person they are.

The reason some people may come across rather less enthusiastic Ryanair CC is partly perhaps due to the fact that they have to fly 6 sectors a day - more than most other airlines. I fly a max of 4 sectors a day, and that can be difficult, especially with an early start, and say, a double Amsterdam flight from London (LON-AMS-LON-AMS-LON) - it's sometimes quite hard to keep smiling and be patient with rude customers on such flights; but if you can't take it, you shouldn't be in the job.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:14 am

EGFFBMI............. I'm based at EMA.

BDRules............... You remember me from your flight?? Scarey!! lol

Yes, we are getting some more 737-300's, one of which is parked at EMA now, an ex-GB Airways aircraft. The -500's are coming to the end of their lease, two are going to the new airline to based out of Coventry.

I flew one the old Ryanair 737-200's from BHX-DUB and was impressed how quite and smooth the old aircraft was!! Although the rush for the seats was a little to be desired!!

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:26 am

bmibaby is nasty, nasty business - as far as EMA is concerned, come back BMI / BMIR, all is forgiven, then at least I can give up on flying BA ex BHX. Hopefully the BRU route sets a trend at EMA and fairly soon we'll be back to real-airline sanity on other routes too.

I suspect that Ryanair is probably nastier than baby, although this is just perception based on media, etc, as I've never had the misfortune to have to fly with them.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:32 am

"I suspect that Ryanair is probably nastier than baby, although this is just perception based on media."

It's funny how misinformed you are, for Ryanair frequently wins 'best airline in the UK' awards. For an example, check-out a recent thread in which the second-place winner was discussed.

Contrary to what is often said in the media, Ryanair is a superb airline - and I'll remain loyal to them forever. If you just want cheap prices and not all the fancy nonsense which surrounds flying, then they're just fine. Even when I'm a barrister (won't be too long now), I won't shell out money to fly any other carrier (except U2), except when I need to.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:36 am

Andy - What a load of crap!!!

The introduction of Baby and Easyjet at EMA have attracted thousands of more people to fly from EMA. We get lots of daytrippers who can now enjoy a day in places like Amsterdam, Edinburgh whereas before it was not possible. Both airlines from EMA are successful. Speaking as Baby Crew, we are mostly busy, especially this Xmas and New Year.
As regards to the BRU route with BMI Regional, form what I hear, the loads are very poor!

So, Andy, if you want to pay more and fly BA then that's fine, I wont miss you on any of my flights!!!
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:42 am

Sadly, the point most people miss when proclaiming the cheap fares offered by the likes of bmibaby, easyJet and Ryanair is that quite often full service airlines will sell you a ticket just as cheaply, and include the frills. The mystique built up by these carriers is that they're cheaper - people think of these carriers when they want a cheap ticket, but quite often they'd get as good or a better deal from a real airline but they just don't look because there's a perception built up that real airlines are expensive. Why pay for crap service and have to fork out money for the extras, when another airline will supply it all for the same price?

For example, I fly to GVA usually at least once a month. Many times I have been able to get a seat on BA ex BHX at fairly short notice (one week or less) for the same or a lower price than I could get a seat on U2 or WW from EMA. Occasionally BA wants more, but on balance overall I'd say I'm on the up-side sticking to BA. Why should I pay for nasty service when I can get better for the same price? Another example just before BMI pulled out of EMA. I needed to go to DUB at short notice, and BMI BUSINESS CLASS out of EMA was cheaper than Ryanair crap-class out of BHX.

By all means keep giving U2, WW or Ryanair your money, but the canny buyer can often get better service for the same or lower price. Where price is fairly equivalent, I'll take the inclusive butty, gin and tonics and lounges thank you.

Andy

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:44 am

Andy - What a load of crap!!!" Couldn't have put it better myself!  Wink/being sarcastic

There is nothing wrong with low-cost airlines. Sure, some people might not like them for whatever reason (like the silly and often unfounded way they are perceived because of the media), but they are fine. Afterall, if FR was so terrible, why would it be the most profitable airline in Europe? That itself says enough.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:47 am

"I fly to GVA usually at least once a month. Many times I have been able to get a seat on BA ex BHX at fairly short notice (one week or less) for the same or a lower price than I could get a seat on U2 or WW from EMA."

But you should expect that: low-cost airlines are at their cheapest when you book as far in advance as possible, NOT when you book a week prior to travel. Accordingly, I am not surprised that BA are cheaper. However, I suspect that the LCCs would be less expensive if you were to book months in advance, because their prices reflect how full the aircraft is at the time of booking, whereas BA prices probably do not.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:47 am

Simon Cooper - see above. bmibaby is the worst of the lot as far as low fare deception is concerned. I used to fly out of EMA a lot - often once a week. I know what fares I was paying to destinations like DUB, GLA, CDG with fairly late booking (less than one week), and I know what baby is charging now. Rarely is baby cheaper now than BMI was before. All that's happened is that BMI are now running services out of EMA at similar fares to what they were doing before, but they're providing customers with FAR less value for their money. In any other line of business, it'd be called a con.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:50 am

Yeah service is good, all the 'freebies' and all that, but let's face it, FR, WW, EZY, Jet2 and all the rest, operate on relatively short routes, routes where if you want something then it's there for you to buy, but some people are happy with just a cheaper ticket, without all the extra's. I hate to say it (cos of my bar commision) but most people bring their own food and drink on board, so atleast they are happy!!

I'm all for low cost airlines, but I believe there's room for 'full fair' airlines like BA too!
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:51 am

But you should expect that: low-cost airlines are at their cheapest when you book as far in advance as possible, NOT when you book a week prior to travel.

Fine, but don't try to convince me that bmibaby or Ryanair or easyJet provide better value for money than does BA, because with my style of travel that suggestion is broadly complete and utter rubbish.

Just to refute what you say to some degree... When bmiBaby were operating EMA-GVA daily last year, one time I had to travel baby wanted £216 return EMA-GVA, whereas BA wanted £122 BHX-GVA. I have lots of contacts at EMA and their figures for the flights I would have taken were 32 pax outbound, 43 return on a 735. Tell me that's full... NOT. BA had 39 out, 48 back on a 50 seat CRJ.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:54 am

Andy - from what I see above, is that people are quite happy with Baby, Ryanair etc, except you!!!! The passengers I fly, are more than happy, infact yesterday I flew someone to ALC who paid just £24!!

Like I said Andy, I wont miss you on MY flights, you stick with BA mate!!
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:56 am

"I have lots of contacts at EMA and their figures for the flights I would have taken were 32 pax outbound, 43 return on a 735."

I could, of course, say that those figures were made up, considering I neither know these "contacts" nor have the evidence to prove these figures. But this is a friendly discussion and you're a friendly chap, so I'll just take your word for it and have another pint.

"I'm all for low cost airlines, but I believe there's room for 'full fair' airlines like BA too!"

Definitely! That's my belief, too, because there's several market segments to the overall travel market. Wouldn't it be sad if we, as travellers, had no choice over the level of 'frills' we wanted?
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:03 am

Pe@rson.......... you get what you pay for, that's my opinion!!

Some of us, dont have money to splash around!!

Regarding the Baby GVA flights, the figures quoted are rubbish! Our GVA flights have always been busy and just yeaterday it was full!!
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:08 am

Actually, my figures are genuine. None the less, those GVA figures illustrate why bmiBaby ended up pulling off daily EMA-GVA, possibly partly influenced by their rather dubious yield management more than anything else. All I can say (again) is that for fairly short-notice reservations, a full service carrier can often provide a ticket for the same or a cheaper price than can the lo-cos, but the full service carrier throws in the frills for the price. I'll take that, thank you. Anyone who thinks Ryanair, baby, EasJet et al make their profits from the 1p one way tickets, or the £24 round trips to ALC, is seriously deluded - they make their profits from shafting short notice travellers who after paying a high price invariably get worse service than they'd get from a full service airline. Lo-cos are current day Robin Hoods of the airline industry - they rob the short notice traveller to the benifit of those who book ages ahead, whereas the full service airlines although biased towards advance bookings are less biased than the lo-cos.

I have nothing against the long-advance purchase 1p one way tickets or the £24 round trips to ALC. Good luck to those who get them but don't try to kid me that they provide such good value to all. Like they say in the US - another full Southwest flight, another empty trailer park. Or our equivalent - another full Ryanair flight, another deserted council estate.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:09 am

Our GVA flights have always been busy and just yeaterday it was full!!

No they haven't... You may well be able to fill flights now they're operated only at weekends and during the ski season, but take a look back to when it was operated daily. If they were always full (and profitable) then, they'd still be daily year-round now.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:13 am

Andy, mate, get your fact right before quoting such rubbish! I work for Baby you don't which means, I know what's happening!!

Look, you are happy with BA etc, and that's great. As we said earlier ppl have a choice and that's good. But some of us, infact quite a few of us, quite like the low cost airlines, they are successful.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:14 am

Now, now chaps! Let's not fight about it. After all, we won't change the way we feel about it. Relax.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:12 pm

Skymonster,

I think that you are sadly deluded and being a tad offensive by saying that Ryanair flights are full of passengers from council estates.

In any case, my posting was whether Bmibaby is nicer to fly with than Ryanair. If you wish to start a rant against LCC's then I suggest you open a new topic.

Call me misguided, but as a CREW member I thought you may have had a responsibility to be a little more careful with the wording of your opinions.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:35 am

"I think that you are sadly deluded and being a tad offensive by saying that Ryanair flights are full of passengers from council estates."

Well-said, Capital! That's the biggest load of tosh I've heard for a long while - at least since this morning.  Wink/being sarcastic

I don't come from a council estate yet I would ALWAYS travel on U2, FR, etc., than BA and the like, so long as I could get to my destination. I really dislike paying more than I have to. Yes, I might be tight-fisted with my cash, but that's the way I am. And I would still fly on LCCs where possible even if I was a millionnaire.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:14 am

Pe@rson said: I would ALWAYS travel on U2, FR, etc., than BA and the like, so long as I could get to my destination. I really dislike paying more than I have to. Yes, I might be tight-fisted with my cash, but that's the way I am. And I would still fly on LCCs where possible even if I was a millionnaire.

Yeah, and therein is my real point. I'm probably as tight fisted as you are, and all I'm saying is that on MANY occasions I've found that when buying within a one to two week timeframe as cheap a deal or a cheaper deal can be had on full service carriers than can be got from the lo-cos. If you want to blindly buy all your tickets from U2, FR, WW etc believing they always offer the best deals, then that's up to you. Me, I'll shop around and if I'm faced with the choice at similar prices, which I often am, I'll take the full service carrier with the better service and facilities each time that choice is available thank you.

Simon Cooper said: Our GVA flights have always been busy and just yeaterday it was full!! Andy, mate, get your fact right before quoting such rubbish! I work for Baby you don't which means, I know what's happening!!

Simon, get real. When baby ran GVA daily easyJet consistantly out performed baby in terms of daily loads. Now baby are flying MA / EGNX), United Kingdom">EMA-GVA on Sundays only in the ski season, you may well be full, but that's no where near as difficult as filling a year round daily service. I assure you that if the daily GVA flights that used to operate had "always been busy" it'd not have gone to once a week.

Please don't take this as a direct criticism of you Simon, but having spent nine "happy" years working at Donington Hall in the past, unless something very radical has happened recently I assure you that the average cabin crew member is a long way from knowing what's really happening across the airline - in any airline. You see a snapshot section of the big picture and hear the rest through the very accurate (NOT) grapevine and from management communications which in the case of the BMI group rarely reflect the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The good news is that baby will strengthen its position at MAN as there's some strong performance coming out of there on some routes, but I'd be happy to wager with you that within a couple of years at most baby might still be at MA / EGNX), United Kingdom">EMA but will be mainly focused on the Med routes and the likes of PRG (maybe even GVA still at weekends!), but will have largely disappeared from the MA / EGNX), United Kingdom">EMA business routes. The prospect of FR coming onto BVA, HHN and DUB has not totally gone away and should U2 go onto AMS that'll largely kill baby's "business route" aspirations from MA / EGNX), United Kingdom">EMA, but will leave room for the Jungle Jets to come back onto routes where reasonable yields can still be had from the business travel market.

Capital146 said: I think that you are sadly deluded and being a tad offensive by saying that Ryanair flights are full of passengers from council estates.

Never heard of the concept of a joke???

Misguided Big grin said: Call me misguided, but as a CREW member I thought you may have had a responsibility to be a little more careful with the wording of your opinions.

As a photo screener I am free to express my personal opinions on anything I want in this forum. It is only on the photo forum and when providing information to photographers that my remarks can be regarded "official"

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:46 am

Skymonster.......you get real!!!!

"but having spent nine "happy" years working at Donington Hall in the past, unless something very radical has happened recently I assure you that the average cabin crew member is a long way from knowing what's really happening across the airline - in any airline. You see a snapshot section of the big picture and hear the rest through the very accurate (NOT) grapevine and from management communications which in the case of the BMI group rarely reflect the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

What a load of crap!!! I see a snap shot do I?? What I see are the passengers on the aircraft and there seems to be quite a few mate! Passengers who, unlike you, seem quite happy with Low Cost Airlines!

As I said before, there is room for both, you stick to paying full fair, because I wont miss you on my flights, we have enough happy customer's without whingers like you!!

Let's make a toast to Low Cost!!
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:58 am

Only one winner here for me, i've flown both airlines a number of times and Ryanair wins hands down. On the whole, much more friendlier, good service and flights are more or less on time most of the time  Smile
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:29 am

My experiences on Ryanair have generally been unpleasant. Unfriendly crew, don't give a toss if you miss your flight (Easyjet puts you on the next one if possible, without charging)and all round nasty service. And they weren't even that cheap!!

Even Air Lib Express was more enjoyable than rotten old Ryanair. Though I'd choose Easyjet over Ryan any day of the week.
 
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:07 pm

"I'm probably as tight fisted as you are, and all I'm saying is that on MANY occasions I've found that when buying within a one to two week timeframe as cheap a deal or a cheaper deal can be had on full service carriers than can be got from the lo-cos."

That's fair enough - but they are surely only more expensive because of when you book your tickets.

"If you want to blindly buy all your tickets from U2, FR, WW etc believing they always offer the best deals, then that's up to you."

LOL. I NEVER "blindly buy" anything: I research all 'big' purchases, like airfares, very thoroughly. It's just I normally plan ahead a lot, thus can book flights 3 or more months in advance = can normally get very cheap fares on U2, FR, etc. Naturally, if I see a cheaper fare on BD, BA, etc., I will go for that.

"Unfriendly crew, don't give a toss if you miss your flight (Easyjet puts you on the next one if possible, without charging)and all round nasty service"

It's good they don't wait for you: if they did, the plane would be delayed and thus additional costs incurred, not to mention the inconvenience to other passengers.

How many times have you flown FR? I've flown them 30+ times - and NEVER experienced what you described.
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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:37 pm

"I don't come from a council estate yet I would ALWAYS travel on U2, FR, etc., than BA and the like..."

And I DO live on a council estate, but I nearly always fly bmi, British Airways etc so that shatters the original delusion from a second angle.  Smile

To answer the original question, I have never flown with WW so I can't comment on them but after the two experiences I have had with them I simply don't do Ryanair - never again.

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RE: Are Bmibaby Nicer To Fly With Than Ryanair?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:34 pm

Simon i can say from experience that YOUR flights are always a pleasure. I had 1 from BRU last year and the flight was almost full both ways. bmibaby are one of the better low cost airlines but as always you get for what you pay. I have had flights on Go, FR, Easy and bmibaby all for under £20 each rtn inc all taxes. I think the cheapest BA flight i have ever found was £63pp for a MAN - LGW and LHR - CDG.

If you want a full service airline thats fine Mr Skymonster, but like myself and Pe@rson we enjoy the concept of flying LCC's whenever. If i can find a flight from EMA - CDG on Baby for £70 rtn and £63 rtn from LHR on BA i would go for the easy option and fly bmibaby because it is my nearest airport.

why do we have to argue it out every time. 'skymonster' you fly your full service airlines but dont knock the 20+ million people that fly the lo co's every year. It comes down to a matter of taste.
I have had the pleasure of flying BA, Qantas, Icelandair and it doesnt really matter to me if i get an extra inch legroom and a free sandwich. i am not saying your wrong in what you think but dont knock it

regards

stu

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