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UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:29 am

A United 777-200 flying Frankfurt-Washington made an emergency landing in Keflavik, Iceland at 20:15 GMT. The Captain reported an engine fire at 19:25 when the aircraft was located 350nm south-south-east of Iceland. Approx. 249 were on board.

No visible damage could be seen on the engine after landing but a further inspection will be made.


Can someone provide a flight number and maybe a registration?

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:33 am

Glad it got down safely. Now, if it turns out that the engine is damaged beyond repair, UA could be in quite a pickle. I would doubt there's any spares available at KEF, and from what I've heard only the largest Antunovs can carry Triple 7 engines, at what must presumably be a very high, captive-audience price.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:36 am

Seems like the UA 777 engines are always catching fire. Probably because the PW 4077/4084/4090 has some faults that the Rolls Royce and GE-90s don't. The Rolls Royce Trent 800s and the GE90s seem like much more reliable engines, since you rarely hear of them catching fire.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:43 am

The flight number is UA 977.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:43 am

Can someone provide a flight number and maybe a registration?

Flight number must be UA 977, departed FRA at 17:00h, scheduled arrival time in IAD was 19:50h.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:43 am

its UA 977

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:49 am

I know all twin jets are certified to take off with only one engine-is it possible that they would ferry the Plane with no passengers on one engine to some place like Ganger where they could truck in an engine?

When they have an incident like this do they send in another plane for the passengers or do they get them out on Icelandair back to JFK
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:49 am

I was just thinking that no 777 has had an accident where it had to be written off, but maybe I spoke too soon. I hope that this one engine doesn't spoil the airplane's (so far) perfect Safety record.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:49 am

Thrust,

I really think you base your assumption that RR and GE are better then PW on nothing. I also rarely hear PW engines catch on fire.
Furthermore its very good possible the fire is the result of an problem we know nothing about. It might not have anything to do with the engine at all. perhaps it was caused by external factors.

What i want to point out here is that all three engines are very complex machines. that all three have been tested for thousands of hours.
therefor i think you cannot make a simple statement that one is better then the other.

If you really want to do this. compare thrust graphs etc.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:49 am

Unlucky flight - the same that had cockpit fire not a long time ago.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:55 am

Oh hell cant the passengers be ferried out via Iceland Air on a pair of 757's?
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:55 am

The Trent800 and 700 did have problems with blocked oil lines and filters a few years ago, and I seem to remember a Trent800 having a contained fan blade failure at Sydney last year. Can anyone confirm this?

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:01 am

I hear about UA 777 engine fires frequently, GunFighter 6. Maybe I will withdraw my statement about the PW's, if it is that offensive and inaccurate. However, I will say that hear about United 777's catching fire several times per 3 months. I have heard about AA 777 incidents, but those are much rarer. Maybe it's just coincidental. I don't know. I was simply asking for some comparisons of PW engines to RR engines and GE engines.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:11 am

An engine change in KEF this time of the year...?? Not me buddy...!! It's cold-cold-cold., and if they don't have a hanger big enough.....?? Brrrr..!!

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:20 am

Oh yeah, I may have made a mistake, GunFighter 6. By the way, you were right. I did base my assumptions on nothing, I admit, except that I heard that the RR Trents have proven to be more reliable, but that was probably false advertising which I believed to be true. Now for the mistake I made: I think what I presumed to be engine failures were fires in the cockpit. Forget my entire statement about hearing engine fires frequently. I forget that many of those were cockpit fires. There are not a huge number. If PW was an unreliable engine, no airline would select. Yet there are many airlines that do use it on the 777. If many use it, engine reliability is not a problem. So in conclusion, GunFighter 6, you are right, I am wrong. I bear no offense in these comments.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:31 am

and I seem to remember a Trent800 having a contained fan blade failure at Sydney last year

see this thread, responses # 8 and onward
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:37 am

" know all twin jets are certified to take off with only one engine"

I is? I know it's POSSIBLE, but I HIGHLY doubt that is legal.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:43 am

Thanks for that ConcordeBoy.

Im not sure where I read that info, someware in the middle of australia I think.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:51 am

My use of the word "certified" is probably wrong-I know that they must be capable of taking off with one engine in an emergency sorry
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:06 am

Danny:

Unlucky flight - the same that had cockpit fire not a long time ago

Yes, this is the same aircraft that diverted into GLA in November due to smoke entering the cockpit/cabin. I believe it was caused by electrical problems on that occasion.


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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:19 am

Thrust: Don't forget UA is the largest operator of 777s, with 55 in service, 5 in storage. So of 777 failures, UA is statistically more likely to be the carrier with the problem.

Also 226UA is flying JFK-KEF after her trip from LHR-JFK. ETA KEF is 1620Z on the 7th. 767UA was the diverted aircraft.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:24 am

As far as I can tell, N767UA would be the 2nd oldest 777 UA has and the 9th 777 off the line.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:31 am

Just an interesting note about UA 777's. I was on flt 945 from FRA to ORD on Dec. 22nd and mid-way through the flight the captain announced that they had concerns about the electrical system. Consequently the PVT's were shut off for the remainder of the flight and no hot food was able to be served. We almost diverted to Ottawa, Canada, but made it safely to Chicago.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:49 am

Taking off with one engine is different from sustaining an engine out on takeoff. Wouldn't a 777 on a dead start with only one engine just drive around in circles?  Smile
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:50 am

NO AIRCRAFT with 2 engines is allowed to fly on one. Period.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:58 am

Hi all,

I too can confirm the B777 was N767UA.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:02 am

F9Widebody:

As far as I can tell, N767UA would be the 2nd oldest 777 UA has and the 9th 777 off the line.

What age does that make her then?
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:06 am

She was delivered on May 31st, 1995, so almost 9 years if my math is correct.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:17 am

> Glad it got down safely. Now, if it turns out that the engine is damaged
> beyond repair, UA could be in quite a pickle. I would doubt there's any
> spares available at KEF, and from what I've heard only the largest Antunovs
> can carry Triple 7 engines, at what must presumably be a very high,
> captive-audience price.

I can assure you that there are no spares available here for this kind of engine (I'll go look in the backyard just to be sure though Big grin ). If it is damaged beyond repair (we don't even know yet if there is actually anything wrong with the engine - it could just have been a faulty sensor or something), then they would just have to ferry another one here in an Antonov. The Antonovs have been here a few times so that should not be a problem. I don't know about hangar space, but Icelandair has a hangar that can hold two 757's at the same time and it might be possible to squeeze a 777 in there.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:25 am

I pulled up the crew's information on this trip. They are mostly FRA based flight attendants mixed with two BOS based FA's (kinda weird since they were going to IAD).

The limited info I can pull up looks like the continuation of flt 977 will have to wait until tomorrow morning. There is supposed to be an aircraft switch but it looks like they're keeping them overnight. My information is kinda sketchy though...

UA is famous for moving 777 engines around the globe in less then 24 hours. There was a big article in Hemispheres about this very topic about 18 months ago.

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:26 am

Doesn't this proof that the 4 for long haul concept makes sense ?
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At

Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:08 am

SJOERD:
The cost of this diversion is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of maintaining twice as many engines. Besides, I can tell you if there was a rumor of a fire, ANY aircraft would be diverted. Please stop baiting an Airbus vs Boeing rant, if it was an A330 or A300, it would still divert. Fire=Diversion.

Also the new ETOPS rules extend to 3+4 engine aircraft as well. Only 3% of 777 ETOPS diversions are diverted due to engine troubles (Source: Air Transport World, Jan 2004, pg48), so don't blame the lack of engines for diversions.

So to answer the question: No, this does NOT prove the "4 for long haul concept." It proves you divert to the nearest field if there is a risk to flight safety.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:27 am

yeah, amen BISTRO.

Four engines = twice as many things to break

if a plane has a fire, they'll land it, doesn't matter how many engines!

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:06 pm

Its been a bad day for the 777. Co had an emergency landing on Midway island today.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:08 pm

From what I have heard, it is possible to carry a full PW4084 in a 747 cargo, fully assembled. I could be wrong. I know its close, but I remember that being a big point for the big Pratts back during the start of the triple7 program.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Doesn't this proof that the 4 for long haul concept makes sense ?

Why the plane made it safely to KEF. No pax were injured. Do you think a 4 engine plane would be allowed to fly to its destination on three? No I think a pilots would be just as cautious.

But the 2-3-4 engine debate is an old one dating from the Ford Trimotor and the DC-2.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:40 pm

I think the fire=diversion is right analysis in this case. I am not sure if that is true for the CO diversion.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:59 pm

Thrust:

You should really study up before you make such uninformed comments. Read my name carefully.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:21 pm

Citing the Aviation and Aerospace Source book, the diameter of the PW 777 engines is 134in in diameter. That would NEVER fit in a 747 lower deck. NOW, get a hold of one of the flip-top nosed 747s, now your talking !
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:30 pm

PROSA wrote:
Glad it got down safely. Now, if it turns out that the engine is damaged beyond repair, UA could be in quite a pickle. I would doubt there's any spares available at KEF, and from what I've heard only the largest Antunovs can carry Triple 7 engines, at what must presumably be a very high, captive-audience price


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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:37 pm

Am not too sure about the size difference betw a PW and RR engine, but MH once ferried a RR Trent engine using their B742 Combi, unloading via the rear cargo door. Barely just made it out.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:51 pm

Let's not toss the word 'fire' around to loosely....usually, it's just an indicator but you never take chances.
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:16 pm

I think this photo shows that you don't need a Antonov to carry a 777 engine - unless the PW engine is much bigger than Lauda's GE....


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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:38 pm

Regarding the 2 engines vs 4 engines debate. The first thing that is, when there is a fire or even suspected fire, a diversion is mandatory. They will divert. If that aircraft was not a B777 but a B747 it would also have diverted to Keflavik.

I think the issue is, flying a twin over the ocean requires ETOPS. Once you lose an engine, you lose 50% power and the rest of the 50% is all what you have to take you to that alternate airport which can be 200 minutes away. If this engine fails you're in deep trouble but I guess it's so very rare and would be such a coincidence for that to happen since technology is advanced nowadays.

Just wondering, for a route say HKG - SFO, will the flightplan route of a B747 flight be identical to the B777?
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:49 pm

I don't see why you need four engines. Engine failures/problems are fairly uncommon considering the volume of flights that occur everyday, and the odds of both engines failing on a flight are virtually nil. Normally, if a twin-engine plane loses both engines, it's due to another problem, not necessarily the engines themselves.

Wasn't there an Air Transat A330 that lost both engines over the Atlantic due to fuel starvation? I seem to recall it glided for quite a ways before landing safely in the Azores.

(NOT trying to start yet another stupid A vs B war, just bringing up a historical incident related to the subject at hand.)
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:13 pm

Does anybody know what engine Emirates use on the 777??
I remember one suffered an engine failure during takeoff roll about 2 years ago here in Melb, the aircraft stayed here until it was repaired in the AN hangar.... by the way I know Lauda use the GE engines on their 777's.
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:30 pm

Emirates has the RR Trents on its 773s

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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:39 pm

Furthermore its very good possible the fire is the result of an problem we know nothing about. It might not have anything to do with the engine at all. perhaps it was caused by external factors.

Wonder how long it'll be before someone blames Al Queda - terrorists seem to be to blame for most things that go wrong in the world today!  Insane
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:22 pm

OMG, it must have been Al Qaida!!!!! A terrorist was probably strapped to the engine, then he threw a molotov cocktail into the engine!!! Somebody call the FBI and CIA!!!!!!!!!! Big grin  Nuts

Wait, then he would have been bird food. Sorry, my bad.

lol


Just to add in a little facts into the 2 vs 4 engine debate, one advantage that a four engined aircraft would have is that it would be able to be ferried (no pax, cargo) to a suitable MX facility, eliminating the cost of chartering a cargo aircraft for a new engine.

Just my 0.02 €....
 
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RE: UA 777-200 Engine Fire - Emergency Landing At KEF

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:43 pm

The "Sydney incident" was an Emirates 777-300 and it was in Melb.

My (then, now X) girlfriend was an EK F/A who ferried the bird back to DXB (from Singapore, where it stopped to change crews). Even then, it flew back with only a crew of 2 on the flight deck and 2 F/As (had to have one F/A for each front exit).

EK flew a bunch of parts and a big RR Trent down and it took several weeks to repair.

The CF6 series on 767s, DC-10 and A-300s have quite a history of uncontained failures, but I think generally the GE90 is quite good, as are the RRs. P&Ws seem good too.

Have you seen the "making of the 777" video? The engine cowling on those things are amazingly strong... the engine can all but explode and the fuselage is still pretty well protected. Great airplane.

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