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How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:39 am

Hello Everyone! I'm flying from MCO-MEM-IND in less than 2 weeks on Northwest. I've never flown on an Airbus aircraft simply because Delta doesn't operate any and Delta is just about the only airline I ever get around to flying on. What are your thoughts on the A320? How are its takeoffs/landings or climbing performance? I have occasionally heard people refer to it as the Scarebus A320. Why is this? Any comment on the A320 is appreciated. Also, if anyone has flown on the A320 with Northwest please comment on NWA's service on that jet. Thanks!!



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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:45 am

Dlx737200:
I have had the pleasure of flying with airbus' countless times, and I love it. I have gotten the feeling when in the aircraft, that it seems more spacious than the 73X series. This may be a perspective thing as I dont know the actual sizes. As for the performance, I quite like the particular sound it makes on takeoff roll. Slightly different to the 737. Takeoffs and landings are all dependant on the pilot, and so I can say I have had very nice and soft landings, and others very hard. You will enjoy it, I am sure. Have fun and safe flying!

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:53 am

I flew the NWA A320 from Miami to Detriot and a UA A319 from Los Angeles to San Fransisco.
The flights were great and the service on board the NWA aircraft was great too, but the service on UA was on my flight horrible.
The other flight I take in the US was on the west-coast and flown by Alaska Airlines and they fly the 737 and on those flight, it is my favorite airplane
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:56 am

If you have flown Delta 738s you will notice little difference. The 737s have a higher cabin, the 32X has a wider aisle. There really are few differences from a Pax. perspective.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:59 am

Well, I always felt very safe in the A320, safer than in any other plane. I don't really know why.
From my experience, it's much more comfortable than a 737, but that probably depends on the airline.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:00 am

I find that A320 are more comfortable that 737's. They are much more comfortable than the NW DC-9's. One difference you will hear is a loud buzzing noise during takeoff due to less insulation.

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:04 am

Slightly more spacious than 737. A little bit noisy (depending where you seat) - my subjective impression is that in the front of the cabin it is actually more noisy than the 737 (and definitely more noisy than MD80 series), but in the back less noisy than the 737NG. Take-off and landing - similar to most other twins (737 or MD80), but not as spectacular as 757. In turbulence and ground roll on "rough" terrain seems a little bit more "flimsy" than any American-made planes, with a lot of noise from shaking and rattling interior fitting panels and overhead bins, but this probably has nothing to do with the real strength of the airplane. (Have even been in a French car? If yes, your probably understand what I'm talking about.) Nice and very functional, although slightly outdated interior design. Overall, good plane but nothing special. Why "Scarebus"? Well, maybe because it has scared the sh** out of Boeing  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:06 am

"Well, maybe because it has scared the sh** out of Boeing"

Well, they should be scared  Big thumbs up
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:08 am

Have even been in a French car? If yes, your probably understand what I'm talking about.

I suspect this is a punishment for all the "Belgian jokes" we used in France.

What the hell are you talking about ? LADA is not a French brand as far as I know.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:19 am

I flown on 738 and A320 and noticed the following

A320 is noisier in fwd cabin, quieter aft
A320 is slightly wider, but the 737 seemed to have slightly more headroom
A320 seemed a lil flymsier than the 737, but the 738 it wansnt as bumpy a flt
Overall i prefer the 737, but thats a mix of aircraft itself and service/flt experience. In the end, the A320 and 737NG seem to be about n even match.

why Scarebus? because it scared the sh*t outa Boeing...
why 737? because its 3 times better than airbus.



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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:27 am

I've flown on both and couldn't see a lot of difference between the types. They both are very good. Wouldn't choose one over the other.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:12 am

Thank you guys! I never called it the Scarebus A320 ( I couldn't anyway because I've never flown on it ). I heard other people like on trip reports, call it the Scarebus A320. Anyhow, thanks again for all your imput. I'm really looking forward to my flight. The only thing that SUCKS is that right now I'm in 25B ( a middle seat ) and there are NO opening anywhere. Maybe, if I'm lucky, I can get a window seat on the day of departure at the airport. Keep the comments coming if there are any more. Thanks!

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:21 am

You're going to see that there is no much difference from any other aircraft in its class. Of course it is a excuse for everybody talk bad about one plane compare to another. But I'm sure you're going to like and notice that it looks a bit roomier than the 737, and probably a bit more noise than the 737NG
But certainly a great plane to fly!!!
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:06 am

I've flown on the 319/320/321 and thought they were all great planes. Stable, plenty of performance and relatively comfortable. They do have a funny take-off noise, almost like a little motorcycle. As for the "Scarebus" title there is really no reason for it. I've been through some serious chop aboard Airbus planes and I felt perfectly safe. Its probably just a stupid pun that some protectionist wanker here in the US thought up. Although I do like the "scared the shit out of Boeing" explanation! So true...
Anyway, I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is a superior plane to comparable Boeing products, but it certainly is a worthy competitor and alternative.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:32 am

I've flown on the A320 a few times a while ago on Northwest and Air Nippon and I remembered it to be a nice plane. I remembered the service on NW to be excellent with a great breakfast on the MEM-MSP and the MEM-SEA flights and a nice dinner on SEA-MEM. However this was back in 1996-1999 and you can't expect meal service like that anymore. Crews on NW are usually pretty nice and so is the ground staff. On-time performance is usually top-notch. I've done a lot of flying on the 737-700 and -800 lately and I love flying on it but since it's been so long since I've been on an A320 so I can't really make a good comparison.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:34 am

I haven't flown a 737NG to date, but I can say that I much prefer NWs 320s to its 757s, and its DC9s. It is noisy right around the engines, but all planes are noisy, so it makes little difference.
You'll also probably hear a noise that sounds like a wounded dog coming from the hold. It's only the hydraulic system. I always was puzzled as to that until I read the explanation on Frontier's website.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:59 am

You probably heard it referred to as scarebus because a) the person was joking or b) it was some idiot who thinks that anything that isn't boeing is going to fall out of the sky.


I have flown on both the 320 and the 73's recently... youll find them very similar, with the A320 having a bit more room to wiggle in your seat, but the 73 having a high ceiling. The A320 has very strong climb performance...similar feeling to the 757. From what I remember, it lands very smooth and rides well in turbulence. I dont remember any rattling. It isn't as solid is a big heavy widebody, but it is a good ride.

Make sure you take a peek at the cockpit.. it's really snazzy looking up there. nice and roomy without the yokes.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:18 am

I've flown 737NGs on AS and CO, and flew my first A320 on BMI this summer, and can honestly saw I didn't notice any major differences between the aircraft. Airbus and Boeing fans may hype the A320's wider seats/aisle or the 737's higher ceiling, but I think you will be hard-pressed to find any substantial differences. The A320 vs. 737 Classics is another matter: the new interior on the 737NG helps a lot.

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:35 am


I have been flying 737s since 1968, the 100s series ! As a matter of fact, VP was one of the few airlines in the world to fly the 100 series. As a matter of fact, it still flies two (PP-SMA and PP-SMC) , then they were very advanced, RG was flying L188s and SC Caravelles ! Except for the lesser noise levels, no big difference from the early 737s to the 73W or 73H.

The A320's flight seems less "nervous" , approaches and touch downs less shaky even in adverse weather.

Luckily some airlines fly 737s and other 320s so that we can vary when we feel like it.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:52 am

I've flew both last year and I definately prefered the Airbus to the 738. The Airbuses were LAX-EWR-LAX in Sept. of '02 and the 738 were LAX-EWR-LAX in Aug of '03. I found that the seat width was much wider on the Airbus, though the Airbus was UA and the 738 was CO. I also like the underseat room on the Airbus better. When I flew the 738, I couldn't fit my backback under the seat, but had no problem getting a larger carryon under the Airbus. I also noticed that the 738 in CO seem to have a box underneath that prevents comfortable foot placement. One last thing, the legroom was far better on the Airbus. Just my Two Cents

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:56 am

Thanks for flying with NWA ! ! !

Have a great trip.


The A320 with NWA holds 16F and 132Y. If you sit upfront you'll notice on take off it sounds like a wild weed waker. Then gets quiet at altitude. Depending on when the airplane came into the fleet you will either get one of two things. A very comfortable seat. Or the new thin one. Still comfortable but not as much as the older ones. Have a great trip and get some good BBQ in MEM.

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:06 am

Qantas Domestic flies both A320's and B737..


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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:06 pm

After the problems with the fly-by-wire system that caused a couple of crashes were sorted out by the early 1990's, the A320 has proved to be a pretty reliable and well-liked airplane. The only downside is that the overhead bin design really cuts down on headroom, something I hope Airbus addresses with a newer overhead bin design soon.

I see the A320 probably get new interiors and possibly next-generation jet engines in the 23,000-25,000 lb. thrust range by 2010.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:03 pm

Back in the eighties,I flew AF A300 Paris to London,and I swear I did not know
that the aircraft had landed and was actually on the tarmac,it was the best best landing I ever had in my life.( I have flown close to a thousand times.)
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:16 pm

flew on the A320 twice:
* Swissair
* BMi

...I prefer the A320 over the 737-series, more spacious cabin  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:40 pm


I have had the pleasure to fly on NWA's A319 and A320's a few times and then IB A320 and A321's and they are great a/c. Smooth flight, very quiet interior, yes, more spacious than the 737's which I love though...I love the little sound they make when being pushed back...almost like a hum and a squeeking sound..(some of you make know what I am talking about).
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:03 am

You´ll really like it... Like others have already said, it makes different noises, but one thing that´s substancially more quiet than on a Boeíng is putting the flaps down. On a Boeing you hear the spindles turning, whereas on the 320 you practically hear nothing..Keep an eye on it..
Otherwise it´s performace it absolutely even with a Boeing plane, if not better. Now that they figured out all the kinks in the fly by wire system I consider it being a verrrrry safe airplane.



 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:32 am



Honestly, the 320 is my favourite, spacious and really comfortable. You should try Jet Blue. I love these Airbus...

I think the same as you Azmi, 300 and 310 were incredible for the softness of their landings. I can not tell if it s true or simply a feeling.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:42 am

After the problems with the fly-by-wire system that caused a couple of crashes were sorted out by the early 1990's, the A320 has proved to be a pretty reliable and well-liked airplane.

All A320 crashes have been attributed to pilot error.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:52 am

Well, with over 2100 built now, in the last 15 years or so, perhaps yoour feelings should be allayed.

151 United AL (N) 55x A319, 96x A320
141 Northwest AL (N) 68x A319, 73x A320
121 Air France (F) 3x A318, 39x A319, 64x A320, 15x A321
107 US AW (N) 59x A319, 20x A320, 28x A321
100 Air Canada (C) 47x A319, 40x A320, 13xA321
81 America West (N) 32x A319, 49x A320
73 Lufthansa (D) 17x A319, 30x A320, 26x A321
67 Iberia (EC) 4x A319, 57x A320, 6x A321
61 British Airways 33x A319, 28x A320
50 JetBlue AW (N) 50xA320

These are just the top 10 companies flying the type, i don't think they would operate it , if it was a scarebus!

It is wider than the 737 type, more modern, and performance is pretty nippy.

I work on 737-400 & A320/A319 , and there are things i like about both.
 
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:57 am

I have flown both B737 and A320 and honestly speaking , I prefer flying on A320 . 737 is a good plane and besides if it's 3 times better then A320, there wont be so many A320 operators out there.
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:15 am

DLX737200, You will have a great flight on the A.320...I have flown 159 A.320's over the past 9 years and it is a great Aircraft. It has flown me safely in and out of some of the most interesting Airports in the World. One of the most interesting A.320's that I have flown was Indian Airlines from New Delhi to Bangalore. Indian are the only A.320 Operator in the World to fly the A.320 with the Main Landing Gear which has 4 wheels on each Main Gear. It sounds and feels on landing very like a B.757-200. I have also flown the A.318, A.319, and A.321. I think you will have a very safe and great flight. Have fun !!
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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:45 am

Thanks everyone! I am so excited now about this trip. I hope to get some great pictures and build some great memories based on this flight. I only wish I could get a window seat on my flight on the 23rd. NWA's booking reps told me that a certain number of seats were held until the day of departure. Can anyone tell me if this is true or not? If so, does anyone know how many or was seats in particular? I really hope to get a window view! Thanks again!

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RE: How Is The Airbus A320?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:55 am

Generally, I like the plane, but on my HP flight yesterday from LAS-ONT I was quite aware of an auditory harmonic oscillation, at FL280 that just about drove the occupants in the cabin crazy, it was that noticeable. Also, at landing, when reversers and brakes were applied, the amount of creaking, shaking, and vibration noises from the plastic interior made me laugh, it was so noisy!

I'll be on 4 CO 737's this coming weekend and I'll be able to compare the two types.

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