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Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:03 am

Looking at this picture, i think the 737 is closer to the camera. What do you think?


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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:07 am

Boy, that's a good one. My guess is that the 737 is closer and lower than the 767. It's really hard to tell.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:12 am

My guess is also that the 737 is closer and lower than the 767.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:16 am

I'd say the 737 was closer. Great picture!

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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:21 am

Actually, the question should be "Which One is Closer?" You use "closest" when referring to three or more objects.  Smile

BTW, I'm pretty sure the 733 is closer (I assume that's a 762, not a 763, right?)
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:29 am

HI

I think there both the same !
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:32 am

Surely the 767 is closer - as its in slightly better focus than the 737.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:35 am

i'd agree that the 767 is closer (landing on 28L ) than the 733 on 28R. the 733 being 'lower' accounts for the fact that it is further away.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:03 am


Firstly...good thing that this thead was started...and my guess is that the 767 is closer...i can't put my finger on it but i know that it is closer than the 737....  Smokin cool
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:04 am

the 733 being 'lower' accounts for the fact that it is further away.

Does ths make sense

Anyway would say that the 737 is closer lol

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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:07 am

it makes sense if you consider that something further away will appear closer to the horizon...
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:08 am

That is, indeed, a superb picture! After driving my eyes batty looking at it, I'm going to have to vote for the 762. Yes, it's focus is a little better (of course, the focus could've intentionally been on it, and that would make the 733 slightly out of focus whether it's further away or not).

At the same time, the tower might want to put the 733 ahead of the 762, for purposes of avoiding the most wake turbulence.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:12 am

id say after looking it over carefull that the 737 is indeed closer. although, at first glance the 767 appears closer.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:13 am

It is a tough one. I think the 737 might be closer because the size of the planes aren't too much different, even though the 767 is a lot bigger.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:33 am

The 762 is maybe 40% longer than the 733. The 762's image is maybe 15-20% longer than the 733's. Looks conclusive to me.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:39 am

the 737 is closer, no question. Just think of the size comparison!  Big grin

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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:51 am

Timz, that's exactly why I think the 733 is closer - I actually put a ruler to the screen, getting looks from my co-workers!)
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:45 am

Take a close look at where the 737's tail is close to the 767's nose. To me, the difference in detail/color/contrast between the two is additional proof (IMHO) that the 737 is further from the camera (landing 28R) and the 767 is closer to the camera (landing 28L).
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:54 am

I have to say that the 767 is closer. If you think about how it was posted, he points out the 737, but the 767 is in focus. That would say to me that the camera auto-focused on the closer object, even if that wasn't the original intention. But why doesn't someone ask the photographer? I know, I think I'll do that. I'm waiting for his response right now.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:00 am

The windows, emergency exits all appear slightly larger on the 737, it's the closer one. Also, you can nearly read the registration of the 737, and the flag is in better focus and slightly bigger than those of the 767.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:07 am

Dash8tech stated my reasoning exactly. Looks like a common illusion with the ratio of size v. distance. I'd have to agree with many others in saying that the 737 is closer, probably by 500-800 ft.

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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:10 am

...closer by whatever the distance is btwn 28L and 28R. every time i look at it, it appears differently, though i can see the 733 being closer too. its giving me a headache...
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:29 am

From the photographer via email:

Thank you for your interst in the photo. I had no idea that it would come to this, but I truly do appreciate the interest. The answer to the question is the 737. Just by looking at the photo, the best evidence I could come up with would be the relative size of the main passenger doors or even the relative size of a 767 vs a 737. And just to clear up any controversy, I do actually have a photo showing the 737 in front.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:15 am

I got the same e-mail. Ooops, looks like I was wrong.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:19 am

Im definetly going with the 767!! the illusion of it being higher makes it look diffrent


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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:47 am

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You are wrong. Read post 22!

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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:48 am

man that is a great illusion.I see it now-this will go down in optical illusion history next to the vase/2 heads picture Big grin

honestly that is a great pic.I compliment the photographer.They say a picture is worth a thousand words-and by the number of email that guy will get-it will be worth a mil Big grin
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:30 am

man ....my gut feelings are messed up..i think... Crying  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Find Them On Passur?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:30 am

I've been hunting for these two aircraft on http://www4.passur.com/sjc.html and haven't found them. Looks like maybe 3:00 to 4:30 PM? So far I haven't found a likely 762 schedule in UA's timetable for 3 January. Can anybody do better?
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:06 am

Looking at a diagram of SFO, those two runways appear to be about 600 feet or so apart, centerline to centerline. I'm surprised that parallel approaches that close together are permitted. If for some reason the 733 blew both tires on the right gear and swerved to the right, things could get rather interesting.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:15 am

It's that closeness that makes a windy/rainy day so fun there!!

 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:02 am

Here's another in which the photographer presented to question. It seems obvious to me that the 747 is in the foreground, but it could be a camera trick.


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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:15 am

I don't see how that Malaysia pic is even worth thinking about. The shadow is obviously closer and the 747 is obviously in much better focus. No question there.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:34 am

"Looking at a diagram of SFO, those two runways appear to be about 600 feet or so apart, centerline to centerline. I'm surprised that parallel approaches that close together are permitted."

They had to get a special exemption to do parallel visuals there. They can't do it during IMC.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:45 am

I was going to say the 737 was closer, based solely on the fact that it was the 737 whose reg number he used for the pic.
 
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:23 pm

The 733 is closer for the obvious fact that a 733 is smaller than a 762. Since they seem almost the same size, the smaller object has to be closer. If the 733 had been farther, it would really look small.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:34 pm

Take it from someone who does not have stereo vision and has had to learn how to tell distance in two dimensions: That 762 is closer. If the 762 were further away, it would appear lower to the horizon, and smaller that it appears.

I even went so far as to hold scale models of a 762 and a 733 (not UA, though) at distances approximating what the 733 and 762 would have to be to appear in this photo, one way or the other, comparing relative size and figuring out where the aircraft would need to be.

As best as I can tell, unless the original photographer says otherwise, the 733 is actually slightly behind and above the 762.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:25 pm

What a great optical illusion! I was ready to swear that the 767 was the left airplane but then sanity took over.

It is the 737, as has been stated, that is closer.

I shall use this one for a bit of fun.
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RE: Which One Is Closest?

Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:21 am

As best as I can tell, unless the original photographer says otherwise, the 733 is actually slightly behind and above the 762

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The photographer did say otherwise - see reply #22.

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