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Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:52 am

How many foreign based carriers operate routes to&from or within countries other than their own. In other words. SQ operating between JFK-FRA and EWR-AMS. Or NW operating routes within Japan. I know some US carriers used to operate within Europe but I'm unaware if any still do. Is this all part of the alliances between the airlines?
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planemannyc
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:17 am

I think there are hundreds.

Just for the New York area--

AI to LHR
BG to BRU
KU to LHR
JL to GRU
CX to YVR
 
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:29 am

Many, many FR (Ireland) flights all over Western Europe and soon SNBA (Belgium) from GVA (Suisse) to MRS (France).
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:56 am

CO operates a daily EWR-BOG-UIO-BOG-EWR daily

Also LA operates a 3x week flight between MIA-BOG-LIM before Santiago.

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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:10 am

Since your from North America, PIA fly Manchester-New York, Birmingham-Chicago and Birmingham-Toronto.

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planemannyc
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:20 am

Biman flies these routes:

SIN-BKK
BKK-NRT
DXB-LHR
RGN-BKK
BRU-JFK
DXB-BOM

They technically have the right to fly between DXB and FRA, ORY, BRU and FCO, but the routes are one directional (it's an open jaw -- flights to Europe return non-stop to DAC).

Druk Air of Bhutan has the following rights:

KTM-DEL
DAC-RGN
DAC-BKK
RGN-BKK
CCU-RGN
CCU-BKK

 
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:11 am


As said before, many many airlines fly between two countries different from their origin one.

In deep South America, several european carriers fly to from GRU to EZE, and others from EZE to SCL. For example, AF flies the EZE-SCL route on 777, and BA flies from GRU to EZE.

Other case is the mini-hub that IB has stablished in MIA, operating flights on A319 from this city to several markets in Central America.

In almost all continents you'll see this type of services, the thing you've got to watch is if the airline really has 5th freedom rights or not; I think that is far more important.


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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:13 am

AA has GRU-ASU and EZE-MVD. AA also has MIA-LPB via VVI and MIA-CNF via GRU. But AA has no right to sell the VVI-LPB or the GRU-CNF flights. I think UA still flies LHR-DEL.
 
yegbey01
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:15 am

BEY to DXB:

JAT (Yugoslavia), Malaysia, Oman Air, Hemus Air, Tunis Air, Air Algerie

BEY to BRU:

Syrian Air


BEY to VIE:

Syrian Air


 
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:22 am

RG flies VVI-LPB-VVI, PZ VVI-CBB-VVI, LB GRU-GIG-GRU, LB Salta-Cordoba-Salta, etc., correct, not always with permission to take pax for inland flights.
 
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:39 am

Qantas flys AKL-LAX; SIN-HKG (to be replaced by PER-HKG non-stop); SIN/BKK-LHR/CDG/FRA & JKT-SIN. There have been others.

AirNZ fly or used to fly LAX-PPT; PPT-RAR.

Between SYD/MEL/BNE - AKL in addition to QF & NZ there is Lan Chile, Aerolines Argentina, Thai, Emirates and probably others.


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jeffrey1970
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:49 am

Varig flies to Japan from LA. Air Canada flies to Australia from Hawaii. Iberia flies to some central american countries from MIA, and Air France flies to some Carribean countries from MIA.

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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:09 am

AF flies:

Singapore-Jakarta B772,
Bangkok-Ho Chi Minh City B744,
Bangkok-Hanoi B744,
Buenos Aires-Santiago Chile B772,
Cairo-Jeddah (winter) B772,
Cairo-Ryiahd (winter) B772,
Nouakchott-Conakry A343,
Douala-Yaounde A343,
Miami-Port au Prince A320,
Fort de France-Port of Spain A320/ERJ.
 
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:33 am

I don't know if JL is still flying MEX-YVR as part of the MEX-YVR-NRT route; I recall flying to YVR on JL in the early 90's. IB used to fly MIA-CUN, but as I understand its 5th freedom rights were revoked. I also recall that a long time ago MH flew MEX-LAX. The most exciting news in connection with this topic is that EK will be flying GIG-EZE as part of a DBX-GIG-EZE route with the A340-500 soon.
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RE: Foreign Carriers Operating In Other Countries

Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:45 am

In addition, some international carriers maintain feeder routes to main hubs, e.g., Iberia at Miami:

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