BMAbound
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Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:30 pm

To the pilots, private or commercial, what's your favorite part of flying? Relaxing at cruise altitude, the take off or the landing? Or, (pertains to small AC pilots) steep turns, spins or something else in that manner?

This topic seems susceptible to previous discussions, but a search gave nothing.

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FredT
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:42 pm

Taking a solid 5+ m/s elevator ride right up to a high cloudbase!

Or possibly looking out after hanging on by teeth and nails to a weak blue thermal caught at 400 m, to be met by the view from 1500 m in a clear blue sky.

Powered flight? Bah, flying straight is boring! Big grin

(Yeah yeah yeah, it does get you places somewhat more reliably)

Oh, a really good landing leaves a nice aftertaste to the flight as well.

Cheers,
Fred
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:10 pm

Landings, of course!
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:37 pm

For me, it is when tower gives the 'Taxi into position and hold' instruction- for me this is when all the anticipation and excitement about the upcoming flight reach their peak.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:06 am

I agree with CV990A, communication with appr./dep./twr/gnd or whatever is very stimulating and keeps you on your toes. Landings are nice though, it's a precision job and a great one leaves a smile on my face for the entire day!  Big grin

johan

PS. FredT, where do you fly your gliders? Around Linköping?
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:07 am

The office...period!  Big thumbs up

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:31 am

Usnseallt82 -

yeah, those F-18's must be booooring...  Big grin

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:07 am

BMA,
affirm, Malmen AFB. There probably aren't many flying clubs which can beat our security outfit!

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:17 am

Guess you're right on that one Fred...

JAS 39 escort every time you land, huh?  Big grin

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:35 am

The best part? Takeoffs and Landings!!!!!!!!!!
 
FredT
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:06 am

BMA,
we're trying to get them to fly tow... problem is, our Vne is below their Vs! Big grin

Thinking more about it, the feeling of freedom is probably the greatest. "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth...", that poem captures it all for me. To be free to explore a world of clouds at will, the peace and tranquility only found when spiralling down around a soft cumulus on a sunny afternoon... the view of a landscape where the sun has set, while you are still enjoying a sunset invisible to those ground-bound. A rainbow seen from above, sun glittering off a lake or the canopies of the trees in a forest.


As for pure kicks, as most people seem to home in on... stalls are an nice feeling. I for one don't mind having my stomach displaced. I actually enjoyed spinning as well. "Whoa, where did the ground go?!"

The feeling in a zero-G pushover... or negative Gs, hanging by the shoulder straps with the earth below you. That plays an interesting trick on your sensory systems, your ears tell you that your eyes are wrong and vice versa.

There is no roller coaster able to replicate that part of flying!

Cheers,
Fred
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:30 am

I like when we have an empty plane and we can take off and climb like a bat out of hell all the way up to altitude. ( well, that's if ATC is in a good mood)

Also I love when you in the Flight Levels and you can see for days and days, then the sun sets, Its really amazing and all the bad things that you hate about flying kinda go away for a while.
 
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:22 am

The best feeling for me is when air traffic is at it's peak, weather is at minimums, you've had to dodge storms, you've been vectored all over the world it seems, and then you look back at the plane once you've parked and know that it's in one piece because of the skill of the crew.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:27 am

greasing the landing...every time...I wish it was everytime....but it is good to have goals and asperations.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:30 am

I do have to say, other than landings, when you fly between cloud bases, especially at night. When the lower base is overcast and then the top base(oxy-moron i know) is just broken or a few and the moon comes from between the clouds and makes it look like a lake of silver from the clouds below: thats cool.

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:35 am

My favorite part has got to be flying IFR going in and out of IMC.
I also like landing.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:37 am

Very true, BMAbound. I'm not real sure how I survive.  Big thumbs up

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:53 am

I like it when ATC gives me a complicated clearance and I actually understand it! It makes me feel like a seasoned captain.

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:58 am

Winch-launch for me... for sure... and thermaling in a gap in the clouds, getting above the clouds in a glider! Great! Watching my shadow on the clouds when i´m turning in a firm thermal!

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:08 am

I would really to be a commercial pilot but don't the long haul flights get really boring? It almost seems as if it would be more fun to fly for a regional carrier than to fly big long haul flights.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:14 am

I agree, flying CRJ's on 1 hr routes would probably be more fun than a Pacific crossing. However, I do believe that for most pilots, flying the big iron is a natural step.

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:19 am

When I nail a really greaser landing in my C152... hehe. Oh, and also when I passed my private checkride... ( yesterday )
also taxiing in to the ramp after a 4.5 hour XC in the rather cramped 152... =)


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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:25 pm

As for me I would say the most intense and best feelings of the flight would be as mentioned when your sitting at the end of the runway and ATC advises you to taxi into position and hold or cleared for immediate takeoff. Things happen quick, you start taxiing onto the runway at the same time your switching your transponder on, lights on, mixture rich, close the window, reply to ATC, and work the throttles and rudders all at the same time.
The the best feeling for me is after a good landing. That just makes even the worst flights seem better.
 
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:28 pm

I'd have to agree as well. On the worst flights, a good solid tarmac under your feet can ease the pain away! That, or a nice carrier deck...relative to the individual, of course.  Big thumbs up

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:32 pm

the flying part.

thats about it, all i care about is flying. i dont care what the wx is, what kind of airplane it is. as long as im flying im happy.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:44 pm

Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.....landing is the first!

I'd agree with that.....I love flying in general, but landing requires a lot out of you as a pilot and I just love the way it gets busy when you approach the airport to land.

Takeoff is right there too, I love giving the engine all its got and climbing away from the earth...!
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:59 pm

Spin recovery during training flights is always a great rush, although I believe the FAA has now outlawed that for any civilian flight school. Sorry guys, wanna 'go Navy?'  Big thumbs up

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:06 pm

Raggi, congrats on the private checkride, thats awsome!

Usnseallt82, yeah, its been outlawed, or at least we dont need to recover from a spin for the check ride (PPL)....I do wanna go Navy though!

(sorry, not related to the post but I wanted to give Raggi a congrats)
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:09 pm

Really? When were spins outlawed?? I knew you didn't have to do it on your checkride, but it's good to know how to recover from one.

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:15 pm

BMAbound, I don't know for sure if spins were actually outlawed (Im too lazy right now to get the dang FAR/AIM out to look it up  Smile), but on almost all of the aircraft I fly there is a small plaque that reads: "intentional spins prohibited" or something of the like.

While it is very good to know how to recover from a spin, too many pilots drilled themselves into thew ground practicing them.
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:49 pm

About 5 seconds after rotation, and when the gear goes up really tells me that "Yes, you are losing your connection with the ground and you are above everyone else below and look at those trees and there's my car in the parking lot..."

I also adore the serenty when cruising above the cloud layers (on those rare chances that I have had during flight training and PPL flight) and watching the white cotton move slowly beneath me. Very pretty. (Guys, if you're looking for a date idea, try this...)
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:53 pm

Yeah, they outlawed the spin recovery instruction because of too many students attempting it without proper training. Of course, this begs the question, since they cannot possibly learn how to recover or practice them safely because they aren't allowed to train them properly.

Oh well, back to illegal maneuvers then! I think it's something that ALL future pilots should learn how to recover from and also something that CANNOT be learned by a simulator alone.

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:58 pm

A perfect landing, but before that approach on finals, when runway in view straight, .... turning finals
 
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:10 pm

I heard they tore it out of the curriculum, but training it certainly can't be outlawed? If it is, I expect we will see the US disappear from the aerobatics circuit rather soon...  Smile

FutureUAL,
that plaque only applies to that particular aircraft.

Cheers,
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:51 pm

When I line up on the runway (on solo flights), apply full throttle, keep the aircraft perfectly alligned while building up some speed, giving a very quick glance to the instruments panel to check that I have both power and IAS working, lifting the tailwheel from the ground, wrestling a bit more with the rudder to roll in line, and when I reach the 60 knots, saying "Annemasse, Saleve" and lifting the aircraft off the ground.

Now, that's freedom...

Landings are something I like too, greasing a landing in a taildragger is not something you learn in a Cessna, but once you've mastered it, you'll feel proud everytime.

However, just flying in the middle of the mountains on a CAVOK day must be my favourite part of flying, otherwise, I would just be doing touch'n goes for fun.

Just a little plug to show you what I mean :


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Summer and winter, gotta love those xyrdaves flights

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:52 pm

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:26 pm

Number 1 take off! Number 2 landing!
 
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:38 pm

Try some short finals aboard the massive CE-150 in the wake of some Air Force C-130's churning their vortices! That'll make any pilot wake up!  Big thumbs up

Great feeling though!

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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:05 am

I used to like the spin training...part of the curriculum here, although there's a lot of rules concerning fuel load, weight and balance, passengers, instructors, recovery altitudes, rotation numbers etc etc etc! But it was great fun to stall and then kick the rudder left and feel that left wing just DROP...flipping the plane nearly onto it's back within 2 seconds! From there, it's just rotating round and round while the nose rises and drops rapidly.

But my real favorite is doing the base leg for Toronto City Centre's rwy 24/26...you aim the nose right at one of the skyscrapers and fly straight at it and then do a 90 or 110 degree turn (depending on the runway) and plunk it down after buzzing the island ferries and sailboats.
 
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RE: Favorite Part Of Flying As A Pilot?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:18 am

Well, first of all the CG must fall within the utility category envelope in order for anyone to practice spins. However, some GA planes do not have that "inner" envelope which allow pilots to have some more fun.

Secondly, Usnseallt82, heaven forbid anyone to practice spins solo!  Big grin I am, though not 100 % certain (new year, new regs...), that the CFI is authorized to demonstrate a spin and then let the student try one (or many...).

It is not part of the training in Sweden. Too bad, it WILL save someone's butt one day if s/he could recover quickly from a spin. (and perhaps someone on the ground too)

cheers

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