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Major Security Breach At CPH

Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:35 pm

I only have a Danish version of this article, which was posted yesterday, but the story is that a airside restaurant at CPH have been handing out razor sharp knives for dining, and that a journalist managed to smuggle the knife with him to the boarding area of his plane. The knife was a barbeque knife with a 9 cm blade.

CPH airport have responded by removing all sharp bbq-knives, but they won't remove all of them (such as butter-knives). They also refuse to move the metal detectors to the gate area, as it will delay a lot of passengers as well as creating a hassle while such a rebuilding is taking place.
 
Matt D
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:37 pm

Yeah but the more onerous, frustrating, invasive, inconvenient, time consuming and restrictive security measures are, the safer we must be.

After all, we can't afford to take chances with another 9/11 happening. It's for our own safety.





(end dripping sarcasm here)
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:11 am

Yeah. Countless acts of violence are committed with butterknives each year. Get them off the streets, I say! There should be a license required to wield such a weapon.

Matt D, right behind you on the sarcasm! Big grin

But pretty daft to have steak knives beyond the security checkpoints, there's no doubt about that. At times, you've gotta wonder why "engage brain" apparently isn't in the implicit basic instructions for every job there is...

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Danny
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:15 am

I wouldn't call it major security breach. Many airlines still give metal knives in business class to yur meal.
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:56 am

I'm thinking here that this questionable knife is what would be called in the U.S. a steak knife. A steak knife could absolutely be used to commit a murder. No doubt about it. It has a medium weight, serrated blade about six inches long that ends in a very sharp point.

The butter knives. Oh, please. No reason to remove butter knives. I've seen keys that you could do more damage with.

BTW, F/As find the business with the metal knives on the airplane amusing. A lot of the plastic knives are actually sharper than the metal ones they replaced.
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:05 am

I'm thinking here that this questionable knife is what would be called in the U.S. a steak knife. A steak knife could absolutely be used to commit a murder. No doubt about it. It has a medium weight, serrated blade about six inches long that ends in a very sharp point.

BTW, F/As find the business with the metal knives on the airplane amusing. A lot of the plastic knives are actually sharper than the metal ones they replaced.


Sounds like someone's out to kill somone..

Anyway, this is no sort of "Security breech" at all.. Ever try ot cut a tough steak with plastic? nope.. Ain't happening!!

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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:54 am

How is a steak knife any more dangerous than a broken glass bottle like the ones given to passengers in every flight and sold an every duty-free shop in the world?
Banning knives from airplanes is just one of those silly, useless, brainless "security" measures implemented after 9/11.
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:07 am

Of course, some nations refuse to ban certain items out of pure contempt for the U.S.'s current measures. Anything can become a weapon, so to ban certain items will just create the urge for all those willing to become more imaginative. That's just the world we live in today, unfortunately.

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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:19 am

This, my friends, is NOT a security breach. Denmark does NOT have a security issue. Why should Denmark or any other European nation have to change their standards at their security stations because of America unless it directly involves America. If this person was boarding a flight to the U.S. then yes it would be a problem.

CPH has a security level which is compatible with the lifestyle that the country is currently under. Denmark is at peace, and it is a very safe place. People are not worried about bomb scares or things or that sort. I know because I spend my summers in Copenhagen, and I go through CPH many times in the year.

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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:34 am

Airlinelover:

Anyway, this is no sort of "Security breech" at all.. Ever try ot cut a tough steak with plastic? nope.. Ain't happening!!

The majority of the time, the metal knives that were put on airplanes were literally as dull as butter knives. It was our passengers who told us the plastic ones were sharper than the metal ones. The ones that were put on for F/C were quite sturdy (at least on US) and sharper than the metal ones. No joke!  Big grin
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:38 am

So just have somebody smuggle a sharpening stone on board...

Jan
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:31 am

Man, this makes you wanna just freak out! Not because any "sharp objects" can be carried on board but because there is such a fuss made out of it.
I always ask myself if people responsible for security measures believe that any potencial criminal is as stupid as bread... If you have the intention to kill someone or do whatever others would not like then no safety regulation can help out. Only the stupid depend on killing with knives (and thus would not do so if they are hindered of carrying one on the plane) but a smart guy wouldn't depend on it and use any object which is on the plane anyways.
Why not also ban pencils, pillows, magazines,... Hey, ever thought of using your PTV as a weapon?
In the current state security is only preached but if there is anybody who has the desire to cause trouble he will be able. Sad but true.

Besides that, CPH is one of the greatest airports to hang out between two flights, it's quite cool what they all offer in the transit zone.

Max
 
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RE: Major Security Breach At CPH

Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:17 pm

I stand corrected, it was a steak knife. And to make the story even more bizarre, the reporter who took the knife with him to the gate as well as the other who helped with the article (photographer etc)has now been banned from CPH, meaning that they can no longer gain access to the airside part of the terminal using the press ID.

MEA321,
I'm afraid that the level of security has been upped, since some nutheads decided to attack our PM with paint, following his decision to go to war. However, you can still find his number in the phonebook & chat with him personally, and if you are in downtown Copenhagen, you can still find the queen doing some shopping (albeit with a bodyguard or two - but still).