Santhosh
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How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:11 am

It was long time dream for me to travel in the cockpit of an airline and watch the how the pilots does all these procedures.So is it possible for a passenger to request for a ride in the cockpit?Does pilots allow that sometimes?If yes TO whom should I request in the ground before departure.Do we have to request to the gate agent?Does it happen like that?Does Indian Airlines or Jet Airways crew allow this?If you have any information in your past experiences or suggestions.I would very happy to know that.


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S.K.George
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:19 am

What, are you crazy? After 911, no one gets near the cock pit. Very, very bad topic and surprised airliners.net would let you post a topic on this. Robert NWDC10
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:20 am

I don't think you have a hope now, I'm afraid. Since 9/11 the flight deck is, and has to be, a high security area.

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:20 am

It depends on what airline you shall be flying.
The authority for jumpseat rides resides with the Captain, so he or she is the person you should place your request to.
A member of the flightcrew is usually at the door for boarding, so this your best bet.
I got the jumpseat once on Air India, Boeing 747-337 "Shivaji" (don't remember the reg lol..). I had my request turned down by the purser, but I got lucky, the Captain was present and granted my request.
Now it also helps if you're a pilot lol Big grin
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Little edit :
What, are you crazy? After 911, no one gets near the cock pit. Very, very bad topic and surprised airliners.net would let you post a topic on this. Robert NWDC10
Myself and a number of my friends have had the seat after 9/11 and we're not airline pilots or airline employees. so please do not post such blatant msinformation.

[Edited 2004-01-15 16:24:27]
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:22 am

NWDC10 - you beat me by 9 seconds  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:27 am

UTA,

I knew that the "plug master" would reply!  Big thumbs up


PS: Since 9-11, Ive had jumpseats on SK, LH, OS and TP.
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:29 am

I have jump seated on Malmo Aviation's Avro's on Swedish domestic flights numerous times. On the other hand, I'd put a couple of bucks on that these flights are waaaay below average when it comes to the risk of being hijacked (I mean, what is there to hit in Sweden?)  Big grin

I wouldn't even bother asking to jumpseat on an American carrier. Chances are virtually zip.

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:32 am

Hey, if I get to fly LY one day I'll ask for the seat.
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:33 am

Thanx for the Infro UTA.I have heard that some pilots are really good and lets you travel in the jumbseat.But sometimes if we ask the flight attends then they might let you down.I knew a pilot who used to fly for Luxair.He told me if someone requests him then he will surly allow them to visit the cockpit.

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:39 am

I don't think there is anything wrong in placing such a topic NWDC10.I placed the topic just to know weather its legal to place such a request to the pilots.I am sorry if you didn't like this post.

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:47 am

NWDC10, is there a problem with Santhosh posting a perfectly valid question?


Santhosh, in the States (and I believe most places in Europe?) it's impossible to get a ride in the cockpit. But, I do know a lot of airlines still allow it. I'm sure some Asian countries don't have as much of a problem. Just bring a camera, and when you get on the plane ask the FA if you could take a peek in the flight deck, and more likely than not she'll say yes. Crew are usually very friendly, and they may talk to you. I don't suggest asking "can I stay for the flight," wait for an offer to hang around, they may offer it!


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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:50 am

I myself flew two entire flights in the cockpit, inbound and outbound from MIA to Brazil.

But it's extremely hard now. I knew the captain (my girlfriend's uncle) and he invited me. The good old days were you could ask to go to the cockpit and the flight attendant would take you there are gone.

Varig and all other Brazilian airlines never had a problem with people visiting the flight deck, quite the contrary. But American companies never allowed me to go to the cockpit, except once and on the ground here at GIG where I was invited to visit the flight deck of the United 767-300 that was taking us to MIA.

Regards

FMAL

 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:53 am

The good old days were you could ask to go to the cockpit and the flight attendant would take you there are gone.


You obviously haven't been flying AF lately lol  Smile

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:05 am

A short story. When i turned 18 i go bennefits cause my mom committed suicide when i was young. Loving the airline industry at that time i wanted to fly so bad. I withdrew the $1650.00 out of the bank in secret. It was day after the very last episode of *m*a*s*h*that i left the house early in the morning. I took a taxi to the airport. I didn't want my parents to know where i was. So i made up a name and gave it to the airline. (this was before we had to show ID). Flew from EAT-Sea. My fav airline is NWA and fav aircraft is DC10. I bought a ticket at the NW counter in Seattle using a different name. I got on board and i was in "Heaven". During cruising, i asked the Flight Attendant if i can visit the cock pit. They said i couldn't. It would have been cool to visit but i accepted that. Flew to JFK non-stop. Stayed overnight and bought a United ticket back. Flew on 767. Very nice aircraft also. Stayed over night in Seattle. Ran out of money and had to call my dad to bail me out. Man he was angry when i got back. But my point. It would be cool to watch, but the ONLY way to get in the cock pit is to be a qualified pilot. Please forgive me if i was harsh. But i was very surprised of the topic. Robert NWDC10
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:31 am

Its ok NWDC10.Felt a little sad on seeing your initial reactions is all Smile But thankyou for the information.I think it would be perfect the ask the crew if they would let me to see the cockpit before departure or after arrival.

S.K.George
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:38 am

it's cool. I did take a free discovery flight once and sat in the pilots seat of a small single engine plane. It was fun but it wasn't a "Jumbo" aircraft.
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:42 am

Just a quick question, does FedEx still allow there employees to ride jumpseat in the cockpit? When I was with them about 8yrs ago I got to ride the jumpseat behind the captain on a DC10. Something I will never forget! It would be neat if they still allowed that for there employees.
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:42 am

UTA,

So AF still lets you visit the flight deck? Awesome. Here in Brazil it depends on the pilot. I have a friend that went to the flight deck of a Varig 737-800 during his Fortaleza - Rio (GIG) flight. But he only got there after he told the F/A he was a pilot too (well, studying). My "brother-in-law" also got to go to the flight deck of a 737-500 (also Varig), last November, in his first ever flight. But he only got there when he mentioned his uncle's name (Varig MD-11 captain).

Great to hear that there's still hope then!

Regards

FMAL
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:31 am

AF lets you visit the cockpit more often than not...at the Captain's discretion of course  Laugh out loud
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:39 am

will BA let me ride up front on Feb 11th? channel hop to CDG from LHR

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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:44 am

Pre 9/11 to jumpseat on US carriers you had to have a commercial 135 ticket with ID saying you were a pilot with a 135 carrier. Also FAA controllers with ID and permission from the captain were allowed to travel the jump seat. Im pretty sure airline employees were also allowed to jump seat also, I don't know forsure. I enjoyed jump-seating, but sometimes I opted for the first class seat after an hour or two in the cockpit. I do not know of any US airlines that will allow you to jumpseat now.

Hope that helped a little,
Jason
 
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RE: How To Request For A Ride In The Cockpit

Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:49 am

Try backing up your request with a Smith & Wesson.  Wink/being sarcastic