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Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:46 am

Swiss-Banned Jetliner is Grounded at Beirut Airport

A passenger plane banned from Swiss airspace for safety reasons is grounded at Beirut airport after authorities found it to be unfit to fly, Lebanese civil aviation officials said Thursday.
The private JR Executive, a Lebanese-U.S. company, is among several airlines whose planes are banned from Swiss airspace. The Swiss government, under pressure from travel companies and consumers, released on Wednesday a partial list of the banned airlines that includes the Egyptian carrier Flash, whose airliner crashed into the Red Sea earlier this month, and four other airlines.

The Swiss Federal Office for Civil Aviation refused to release other names on the full list of 21 banned aircraft on grounds that it is confidential under a Europe-wide aircraft inspection program.

Lebanese aviation officials told The Associated Press that the JR Executive Boeing 720 has been grounded at Beirut International Airport since Sept. 12.

The decision was taken according to a directive issued by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation after inspection showed the jet to have 31 defects, the aviation officials said.

Officials at JR were not immediately available for comment.

The airliner is owned by a former Lebanese pilot and is registered in the United States, the aviation officials said. The company owns two other Boeing jets and several other small training jets.

Airport officials said another Boeing 720 owned by the company was currently not functional, and that a Boeing 727 has been grounded since Jan. 1 pending repairs.

Swiss consumer groups and travel companies have been insisting they had a right to know the names of airlines whose planes had been banned for safety reasons. The pressure grew after the British government last week published a list of airlines that are banned from its airspace.

The Swiss had already disclosed that planes of Egyptian carrier Flash Airlines had been banned from Switzerland for more than a year before one of them crashed after takeoff from the resort of Sharm el-Sheik on Jan. 3, killing all 148 people on board _ most of them French tourists.(AP- By Zeina Karam)


Beirut, Updated 15 Jan 04, 13:37


Source: http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Newsdesk.nsf/Story/0838B09C76C53CB6C2256E1C003EDDC1?OpenDocument&PRINT

The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) is Lebanon's equivalent to the US' Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). It sets the standards and regulations of civil aviation in Lebanon.

Here is the plane:

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Here is a shot of it sitting in Beirut International Airport:
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00028670

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:50 am

Thanks for the Info BA! I was wondering about that plane, when I saw in the swiss list. Nice to see such an old aircraft flying...but if it isn't safe and well maintained, it shouldn't be flying. Period.
Is there a discussion about airline safety (like now in France) going around in the Lebanon as well, after the UTA crash?
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:52 am

Is there a discussion about airline safety (like now in France) going around in the Lebanon as well, after the UTA crash?

That's all they are talking about now I'm afraid. Since the accident, the Lebanese government has had officials and experts in Benin and they are investigating the crash alongside with French officials.

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:54 am

I didn't know Britain realeased such a list. Where can we find it? What are the airlines banned from UK airspace?
 
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:34 pm

airevents.de still offers a sightseeing-flight on this B720 (N720JR):

http://www.airevents.de/boeing_720.htm
 
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:52 pm

I recently visited this plane's cockpit on the ground. It stopped flying almost a year ago primarily because of noise restrictions in some European destinations. It's offered for sale since the hush-kitted 727-100 was purchased to replace it, almost a year ago, but it is well know that it isn't economical to fly.
 
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:58 pm

airevents.de still offers a sightseeing-flight on this B720 (N720JR)

Isn't Airevents the agency which offers also an Alps sightseeing flight at night?  Laugh out loud

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:14 am

BA; no airlines is banned by the Swiss FCCA. They ban aircraft but not carriers. Carriers can operate into Switzerland with any other aircraft than the banned one anytime. THIS has been made clear by the spokesperson of the Swiss FCAA on TV sufficiently clear.
 
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:17 am

Read about it in the newspaper just a while ago,but wasn't that detailed,thanks for the info.

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:02 am

ME AVN FAN,

What are you talking about? I never said anything, I just posted the article....
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:28 am

Here are two photos a good friend of mine sent me of the JR Boeing 720 sitting at Beirut at night:




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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:03 am

Interesting info...
so which one is grounded now? N720JR or the P4-registered bird?
I visited 720JR last year...
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:50 am

BA,

just wanted to point out that, in the first post, the blue 720 pictured and the link to a picture are different aircraft. The one in the link is the same pictured in the night shots above. That one isn't airworthy. Anywhere.

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:56 am

Kay,

Thanks for the info. Any idea what they are going to do with it?

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:55 am

BA; in that article is the term "list of banned airlines" and THAT is simply wrong. It is "banned aircraft", and that is a difference. It does not matter whether YOU said it or the writer of the article, it still is wrong.
 
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:57 am

ME AVN FAN,

Your reply was directed towards me. You were telling me that I was wrong.

Whatever..it's not worth arguing over.
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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:11 pm

BA,

Last time I checked, they were working on it to make it airworthy, probably to sell it too.

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RE: Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut

Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:23 am

The point is NOT WHO may have been wrong. The point is that an airline who gets/got its airplane banned by the Swiss FCAA still can operate into Switzerland with any OTHER airplane at any time. And that can be a VITALLY important aspect of the matter. While the same company in case of the U.K. is blocked entirely and with all airplanes of its fleet ! THIS aspect should not and never be ignored !