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Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:42 am

I haven't looked into this yet. I was wondering if anyone could enlighten the rest of us?
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:52 am

In Canada:

YYZ, YUL, YVR(maybe?)


Other worldwide majors such as:

LHR, FRA, JFK, HK, JOHANNESBURG, CDG

I think are all capable!
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:56 am

Hi, I hope for these following docos to be at help:

http://www.airbus.com/product/a380_planning.asp
http://www.airbus.com/pdf/a380/a380airport_compat.pdf

I was taking a look at them yesterday  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:57 am

I'm even talking gate wise, not just runways. Aren't they talking about the need for a jetbridge structure that goes to both levels?
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:59 am

Yeah, as posted above - how are they going to accomidate for the two leveled doors?
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:43 pm

SFO is DEFINITELY one of the first airports to get A380-800 service. When the current International Terminal (Concourses A and G) at SFO were built in the late 1990's one of the major considerations was the spacing for 80 x 80 meter spacing parking gates for what was then called the Airbus A3XX.

Given the fact that SQ's most profitable route is the sector between HKG and SFO on SQ Flight 001/002 (even more so than the SIN to LHR route!), expect SQ to put the A388 on the SQ 001/002 route as soon as they get enough A388's to fly the route with the new plane five times per week.

I also expect down the road to see VS fly the A388 on the LHR-SFO route and LH to fly the A388 on the FRA-SFO route by the middle of 2007.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:53 pm

Beirut International Airport (BEY) built 2 new concrete runways and a new 21-gate terminal to handle the A380 and future superjumbos such the future flying wings.

Beirut will see the A380 from Emirates during the summer time.

Denver International Airport (DEN) is ready to handle the A380. It's got 6 runways, one of which is 16,000ft. long and 200ft. wide and several widebody gates easily capable of handling the A380.

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:56 pm

I read an article saying that second BKK airport will be capable of handling A380, not sure though since Thai authority always has short vision...
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:59 pm

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:53 pm

I'm even talking gate wise, not just runways.

The Runways/Taxiway and Ramps are the main issue, as those things need a long lead time to get ready for the A380.

Gate size is simple. The airports that "want" A380 traffic will do what they have to do, or they will be left out in the cold. Hopefully the airport managers can get the money from the "A380 Airline" because, all the other airlines will fight tooth and nail to not provide 1 cent for airport upgrades that do not benefit them.

I suspect that the Jetways themselves will not be installed until a few months before the A380 starts service at that airport. There is no need to have a specialized Jetway installed until you need it. That keeps more money in the airports coffers.
 
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MCO's 17L

Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:07 pm

Just out of curiosity, but did the construction of MCO's new runway 17L have anything to do with the A380 specifically, or just for capacity, overall?
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:02 pm

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:14 pm

I would envisage that alot of airports will just load from the one airbridge. Even though it will cause alot of lines.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:53 am

Several airports,we know already can handle the monster,but the A380 will not fly for at least another 2(?) years.Im sure more than enough airports will do something by then.As of now,im just worried if any airline might want to fly it into SXM  Wow! !!
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:24 am

Hello,

AMS is also ready for the Airbus 380. The recent opened new runway "Polderbaan" can handle the plane. And this moment same gates at the E-concourse are been rebuild now the handle the A380!!! So when it's finished, no problem at AMS. Only... No airline has the intension to fly to AMS with the A380.....

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:43 am

What about the A380's prime airports such as NRT, ICN and SIN?
If i remember correctly SIN is currently constructing a new terminal, capable of handling the A380. NRT will, most likely, be the airport that will see each A380 operator flying into NRT with the A380, they must be doing something about it by now. ICN has plenty of space to expand and to dedicate an entire terminal to the A380, what are they doing about it at the moment?
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:44 am

Apparently YYZ will have A380 "capable" gates on the yet to be constructed International Pier of the new Terminal 1. But I wonder who'll fly the A380 here?

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:45 am

If I remember correctly--

NRT is supposed to be doing construction work on both their main terminals so they have 80 x 80 meter gates to fit the A380-800. I believe the main runway there is getting taxiway widening done, too.

SIN has a new Terminal (Terminal 3) that will have A388-compatible gates, including bi-level air bridges.

ICN was designed with the A388 in mind, with several 80 x 80 meter spacing gates and runways/taxiways wide enough to handle the plane.

 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:57 am

Apparently YYZ will have A380 "capable" gates on the yet to be constructed International Pier of the new Terminal 1. But I wonder who'll fly the A380 here?

Most likely EK, AF is a posibility, Korean maybe, anybody else take a guess? CX is a mybe IF they order... there was a whole topic on this
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:13 am

Given the fact that SQ's most profitable route is the sector between HKG and SFO on SQ Flight 001/002 (even more so than the SIN to LHR route!), expect SQ to put the A388 on the SQ 001/002 route as soon as they get enough A388's to fly the route with the new plane five times per week.

It has been stated many times that SIN-LHR is easily SQ's most profitable service. I suppose that SIN-SFO via HKG was given the 001 flight number is that it was SQ's first US route.

 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:50 pm

SYD is still not ready. Minor modifications to taxiways are being undertaken in 2004. However there are still no dual jetgates in SYD intl terminal as yet.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:54 am

Any news about LAX? I know there were quite some discussions about it, but I just can´t believe the shortsight of the management not having the airport ready for the A380.
QF is flying next summer 37 times a week transpacific with B744 to LAX. I belive they are in heavy talks to LAX authorities. Or might they have an agreement with AA that their terminal has one or two A380-fit gates (when parking a smaller a/c next to it)??

BTW: JFK will be ready, MUC T2 has two dedicated parking positions as has ZRH.

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:19 am

Ka...LAX problem is not just gates. The taxiways are not wide enough and not strong enough. The airport is very compact and may be some issues with clearance as well between taxiways. Here at SFO Airfield Safety told me that taxiway B had to be used and that all traffic on A had to be 757 or smaller. There is already a note on Jeppessen charts that 747's need to use extreme caution when passing each other.
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:24 am

LHR will be ready for A380s when Terminal 5 is completed i think, dont hold me to this though! lol

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:27 am

montreal-mirabel is the only airport ready
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:41 am

Anything about MEM or IND? Fed Ex is a customer for it too. I haven't heard anything though.
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:45 am

Any news on ORD with the "expansion" readying for the superjumbo? I'm sure Dick will hide under his bed every time one of those beasts flys over though. Wait, that's just GA aircraft  Angry.


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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:23 am

As739x:
Weight and turnradius is no issue for the taxiways concerning the A380. Due to the high number of tires the weight of the a/c is spread onto the pavement like an B744. Turn radius is actually smaller than an B773.
Wingspan is of course an issue. But trust me, authorities are very quick in issuing ATC procedures to make sure only a certain type of a/c may taxi on an adjacent taxiway when an A380 is around. Will be a horrible job for the colleague to handle that, but would work for let´s say 2 years when not too many A380s are around at LAX at the same time. By that time I believe even LAX will be ready.

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:35 am

Zurich has two new gates which could handle the A 380, but I am afraid we won't get any for many years.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:41 am

It will be a while for MIA to be ready for Virgin's A380s.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:53 am

MUC is for ready to handle the A380.
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:37 am

Anything about MEM or IND? Fed Ex is a customer for it too. I haven't heard anything though.

For FedEx though they will not need gate compliance, just mobile stairs.
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:45 am

"Apparently YYZ will have A380 "capable" gates on the yet to be constructed International Pier of the new Terminal 1. But I wonder who'll fly the A380 here?"

Actually 2 gates at Terminal 3 at YYZ are already A380 capable. As to who will fly them..EK is a leading candidate however Virgin was thinking of using YYZ as a trial run. Hopefully they will return to make that a reality.
 
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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:27 pm

HKG-SFO isn't even SIAs second most proftable route or even its third. Time to FINALLY get your facts correct Ray.

Source of my information for SIA route profitability, SIA Business Meeting. Whats your source Ray?

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:27 am



Well, not entirely correct on the weight. Although the weight is indeed distributed over more wheels, this doesn't help at overpasses, where a taxiway passes over a bridge/road. Here it's just the total weight that the over/underpass structure needs to support, no matter what the number of wheels [although more wheels might be slightly helpful in this respect, since moment weight on the most critical part of the structure would be reduced . . .]. I think this is of particular concern at some LAX/JFK/ORD overpasses.

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RE: Which Airports Are Ready For A380?

Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:30 am

I would imagine that MEM is getting prepared for the A380. Or at least I hope they are.  Big thumbs up

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