MAH4546
Topic Author
Posts: 24560
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:47 am

Not huge news, but, for the first time, American Airlines will offer daily service between Miami and Tokyo, Japan with no change of plane. The aircraft will stop in Los Angeles.

AA 169 MIA 0800-1002 LAX 1230-1600+1 AA), Japan">NRT
AA 170 AA), Japan">NRT 1615-1015 LAX 1330-2131 MIA

Operates daily with 777-200ER.

Service starts 4 April 2003. American Airlines has offered "direct" Miami-Tokyo service before, first via Seattle and currently via O'Hare, but with change of plane and sometimes terminal, it was anything but direct.

a.
 
cayman
Posts: 739
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:28 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:57 am

What is the flying time on that...including the stopover? Would NRT pax be allowed to de-board in LAX?

Otherwise, that would be an unbearably long flight, even in Bus or 1st class....

Interesting though...
 
FLY777UAL
Posts: 4830
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 3:49 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:01 am

NRT passengers, like all US-bound international passengers, must deplane at their first point of entry into the United States.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L
 
scottysair
Posts: 6442
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 4:07 pm

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:02 am

Why didn't not get chance with nonstop from MIA-NRT? You mean that direct for the 1-stop in LAX and no plane change either. It is still competition of other airlines goes to NRT flight.
 
BA
Posts: 10133
Joined: Fri May 19, 2000 11:06 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:24 am

NRT passengers, like all US-bound international passengers, must deplane at their first point of entry into the United States.

Unfortunately that's the problem with international one-stop flights that stop in the US.

UA had the same issue with DEN-EWR-LHR. You have to deplane in EWR and go through customs, then board the plane again. It's quite a hassle, my sister had to do it.

Regards
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
 
aa777flyer
Posts: 1017
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:45 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:02 am

The schedule was loaded in SABRE last night. Although it is the SAME flight number all the way through, and a 777 all the way through, there will still be a change of aircraft at LAX. The MIALAX will be flown with a 777A (16F 35J 190Y) and the LAXNRT will be flown with a 777P (18F 42J 163Y). So still a have to change in LAX.
The TSA was created to make the post office look efficient!
 
bobnwa
Posts: 4464
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2000 12:10 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:07 am

BA,

Are you sure the passenger traveling DEN-EWR-LHR has to de-plane to go thru customs? Passengers leaving the US do not go thru US customs. They are probably going thru passport control.
 
aa777flyer
Posts: 1017
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:45 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:10 am

bobnwa-
Probably what BA meant was that passengers must deplane in EWR, as the airplane must go through an international security check. No one, not even the crew working the trip can be on the airplane while this is being done.
The TSA was created to make the post office look efficient!
 
BestWestern
Posts: 7039
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2000 8:46 pm

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:38 am

International 1 stop services into America are terrible - Delta tried it with a LGW BOS LAX - involved deplaning - immigration - baggage pick-up - Customs, baggage drop - change of terminal - security re-board same plane. Same plane makes no difference.
You are 100 times more likely to catch a cold on a flight than an average person!
 
wedgetail737
Posts: 3638
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:44 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:32 am

A lot of airlines do the 1-stop flying within the US. Delta did it from MCO-NRT, ATL-NGO.

Do passengers have the deplane on QF's LAX-JFK and LAX-ORD flights??? Did they do that with the NZ's HNL-DFW flights (when it happened)?
 
ConcordeBoy
Posts: 16852
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2001 8:04 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:36 am

Do passengers have the deplane on QF's LAX-JFK

Yes.

all international pax (with the exception of pre-screened) must clear customs/immigration at the first point of entry into the USA
Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre c'est impossible sans Concorde!
 
MAH4546
Topic Author
Posts: 24560
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:05 am

Before September 2001, it was not like that. One reason SAA ended the FLL stop on CPT-ATL was because of the fact that it was too much of a hassle deplaning everybody at Ft. Lauderdale. SAA has been one of the biggest pushers towards ending these rules so that they could resume FLL service, but no luck so far.
a.
 
BA
Posts: 10133
Joined: Fri May 19, 2000 11:06 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:15 am

Bobnwa,

Are you sure the passenger traveling DEN-EWR-LHR has to de-plane to go thru customs? Passengers leaving the US do not go thru US customs. They are probably going thru passport control.

Sorry, what I meant to say is my sister flew DEN-EWR-LHR then flew back and while flying back she went through Customs in EWR.

I do not think she deplaned while leaving the US, I will ask her.

Regards
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
 
aa61hvy
Posts: 13021
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 1999 9:21 am

RE: AA To Start Same Plane MIA-NRT Service

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:00 pm

I flew LHR-EWR-DFW, you deplane go through customs...
Go big or go home