aussie747
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QF To Increase Flights To USA

Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:12 pm

As of March,
QF will have the following schedule to USA
SYD-LAX -18 services per week (up from 17)
SYD-HNL - 3 services per week (unchanged)
MEL-LAX - 7 services per week (unchanged)
AKL-LAX - 12 services per week (up from 10)

Well it was about time this has happened, QF is now at it's highest service frequency to the USA than ever before. However I was quite surprised no announcement of a DFW service or a BNE non stop service - despite them increasing their AKL frequency by 20%.

I guess we will have to wait until next year.
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:03 pm

You would think there was room for QF to increase MEL to LAX capacity. They have 1 direct service a day to the USA. SYD has 5 and Auckland at least 4 including United and ANZ.



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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:05 pm

Ahhhh shutup you two.. and Perth has~~~~~~~~none  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:12 pm

Akumas
Ahhhh shutup you two.. and Perth has~~~~~~~~none  Big thumbs up

Umm......How could Qantas operate a PER-LAX direct??? A345 is a possible contender for the route!  Smile


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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:06 pm

A direct Brisbane flight would be great for passengers, but I guess QF route it via Auckland for the number of passengers flying to NZ.

Sort of like 2 birds with one stone.

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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:45 am

I don't think QF will serve DFW until the new international terminal is complete. Does QF still serve ORD through LAX?
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:54 am

But are they ever gonna return to YVR or YYZ?

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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:02 am

Are they ever going to start a SDY to ORD service????
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:06 am

Does that mean more opportunities to use FF miles to get free flights to Aussie Land????
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:33 am

But are they ever gonna return to YVR or YYZ?

Ha! The nerve of some people!  Angry

Just what exactly has Canada been doing all this time? Let me guess... Not finding a "Lil' Sheriff in the Pacific". Well, that's just tough. OZ is ours fair and square. Canadians are just gonna have to take a connection, and it serves them right IMO.  Big grin

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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:34 am


I still think it will be a while before a carrier sets up BNE-LAX or BNE-SFO non-stop. The current carriers (QF and UA, with a little influence from NZ) rely on the business and first class passenger to generate the margin. This type of passenger would be hard to find on a BNE sector.

Having said this, longer ranged aircraft may provide the vehicle in the future to commence these sectors, which I will explane.

I would think a two-class configuration with only a smallish business class section is required on BNE-Westcoast USA. Less business and more economy equals more passengers. Lower business class content means the requirement for higher economy class load factors to cover margins. All this equals more passengers per service, which means more weight, and subsequently reduced range or payload per service (especially the westbound sector).

Furthermore, you would need a subfleet to operate this type of service (eg. long range in a two-class config - most airlines would configure long range aircraft in three classes).

Just my thoughts.....

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goboeing
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:36 am

Any increase in flights to JFK? (as QFA108 passes over my house)

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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:08 pm

Does QF still serve ORD through LAX?

Service never started. It was delayed and delayed and delayed. The latest start date was 29Mar04, but it was recently, once again, deleted from res systems.
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:15 pm

In the next five years, will Qantas ever consider a SYD-DEN or MEL-DEN?
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:43 pm

Why would QF feed into DEN? It's a UA and F9 hub, neither of which have any agreements with Qantas.
 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:31 pm

"Auckland at least 4 including United and ANZ."

I thought UA doesn't fly to AA), New Zealand">AKL anymore??

"But are they ever gonna return to YVR or YYZ?"

I doubt in the near future, will they have the aircraft on hand to do this especially with the added frequency to the US but it would be great for QF to go back to Canada. I think their codeshare flights are suited for them for the time being.

"Any increase in flights to JFK? (as QFA108 passes over my house)"

None so far, I hope they do and bring it to daily (they did fly them daily at one stage?) For student flights to JFK with QF you have to catch the QF108, the AA codeshare brings up the price a fair bit. Well that is the quote I was give with STA.

"In the next five years, will Qantas ever consider a SYD-DEN or MEL-DEN?"

I think they'd try to pull their ORD flight off before even considering that. I doubt there is a market for Australia to DEN. UA may consider this so pax can avoid LAX.
 
aussie747
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:18 pm

The continuation to NYC services of QF 107/108 will be unchanged at 3 services per week (Friday, Sunday, Wednesday).

The ORD services I think have quietly been dropped, I think as they are not in any res system for all of 2004.

Good idea on the BNE services, I guess we may see a 2 class service using the new sleeper bed, when they start coming online in 2005. I think this route will be on a lets wait and see approach. Qantas were cautious about MEL to LAX and it is now doing very well.

 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:53 pm

If Qantas can have so many flights to the US how come United only operates double daily to Australia? Maybe they can do SFO-SYD double daily and spilt the Melbourne flight from the Sydney one?
 
QANTASpower
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 6:17 pm

I guess the reason why MEL to LAX is going well for Qantas is because United pulled out which halved the capacity. It seems to operate at very high loads in all 3 classes pretty much all year round ... then again all the US flights do.



 
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RE: QF To Increase Flights To USA

Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:04 pm

What would be good is to see UA come back and just do a daily MEL-LAX flight and scrap the MEL-SYD they have.
If they have enough aircraft to do this as it would be a daily flight as well. it would reqire about 2 or 3? 744's.

UA isn't in a position to exapand too much, especially if it won't make money for them, even in the long term it makes money but in the short term it doesn, they can't afford that.

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