mckennasmall
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No LCC Between Oceans

Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:41 am

I may be wrong but I do not think there are any LCC that travel between Europe and North America. I thought Song did but I was wrong. I am not talking about charters, I mean LCC like Southwest, Easyjet and etc. If they did they would probably operate it with a Airbus 300, Boeing 767or 757.
 
rjpieces
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Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:53 am

Operating across an ocean by definition is high cost. You can't use the WN model on trans-ocean flights.
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PiedmontGirl
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RE: No LCC Between Oceans

Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:59 am

Also, the airlines that fly across the oceans often charge so little for a ticket that I have no idea what low cost would even mean.
 
Dalmd88
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RE: No LCC Between Oceans

Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:08 pm

I think Laker was the only LCC to try the North Atlantic route. I'll bet some one else will try in the next couple of years. Right now the industry is just begining to come out of its hole.
 
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RE: No LCC Between Oceans

Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:11 pm

Also, the airlines that fly across the oceans often charge so little for a ticket that I have no idea what low cost would even mean.

Again, off-peak maybe but good luck finding a ticket for less than $800 during the summer...

I think Laker was the only LCC to try the North Atlantic route

I think ATA has had scheduled service as well.
 
toltommy
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RE: No LCC Between Oceans

Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:24 pm

How is operating across an ocean high cost by definition? Based upon the stage length, it should be a much lower cost, even with higher airport cost in Europe. Even WN has been extending their stage lengths in order to take advantage of the cost savings.

There's definately a place for a low cost long haul LCC. Icelandair and ever Aer Lingus have moved in that direction, but no true long haul LCC has yet emerged. Laker yes, but they used the old model, old planes, packed seats, no amenities.

I think BWI would be the perfect place to start a long haul LCC. BWI has wanted more int'l service for years, and they have plenty of feed from WN (I'm not saying they'd partner, but you can fly in on 'em), and BWI is well known as a low fare airport that people will drive too.

I could see BWI to STN, and a number of other airports that the euro LCC's use. I envision everyday fares starting at $99 plus taxes each way, up to a walk up fare of $399. A simple but comfortable business class for $100 more each way, and available for upgrade on day of travel from any fare, similar to AirTran. Focus on the same markets as WN, VFR traffic, and the cost conscious business traveller. Iwouldn't be surprised to see someone try it soon.
 
m404
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RE: No LCC Between Oceans

Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:58 am

Is Virgin Atlantic an LCC?
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