planemannyc
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Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:00 am

Hi,

My close friend is getting married in April and wants to take his new wife to Rome and then a Safari trip to Kenya / Tanzania. Thinking I am a member of a.net, he came running to me for advice. Unfortunately, I don't have much of an idea how to select a travel agent that can help with his plans. The itinerary is going to be NYC-ROME-EAST AFRICA-NYC (via ROME is fine). Any help you guys can give would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Wasim / planemannyc
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:07 am

Wasim: I have no firsthand experience, but I have heard from various sources, travel press, etc that companies like Micato Safaris and Abercrombie & Kent are reputable and offer some well-respected safari packages. You or your friends can check them out online, they both have pretty fancy websites.
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:25 am

Try Kruger Park/South Africa: Great organization; Great sights, Great treats.

Go for South African Airlines / South Africa, Express, they have sensational packages, I can only recommend due to personal experience!

 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:27 am

Definitely use an inclusive tour operator. From what I've been told, its the only way to really do Africa.

N
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:08 am

Michael, 123, Neil,

Thanks so much for your help. I will pass the information to my friend.

Best,

Wasim
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:29 am

Wasim, here´s more info:

Contact Sarah Tsengiwe, expressionsofafrica@saexpress.co.za, she will give you details of Kruger packages (South African Express is part of SAA, highly recommendable!)

Good Luck to your friends!
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:35 am

If you don't necessarily need to stop in Rome, go KL/KQ JFK-AMS-NBO-DAR
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:43 am

I know someone who went to Africa, in the Kenya/Tanzania area, but not with a tour operator or anything (although he did know someone in the area). He went with BA from LHR (I know that they have quite a few destinations); KLM, SNBrussels (is that the current one?  Laugh out loud), LH (I think) all have service to NBO, for Tanzania, you would most likely have to fly into NBO and connect.

For your friend, it might be best to do it with a travel group. Kenya has a fairly large assortment of animals, but they are very used to humans. I have heard that Tanzania and Uganda are better, and the animals are much more in their natural habitat.

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:33 pm

For your friend, it might be best to do it with a travel group.

It can be dangerous at worst and inconsistent at best to try to do it any other way.

Its hard to find safe accomodation, food, and transportation on your own in many African nations. A travel group/tour operator at least has made basic inquiries about those topics.

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:54 pm

PLANEMANNYC~

My family and I traveled to South Africa for Safari and used the Abercrombie and Kent travel agency. Very professional and highly recommendable. South African Airways is also a very good choice. If you would like more information, I'd be glad to talk to you about it.

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:33 pm

Planemannyc:

There are several good safari agencies, including those named above. Try a Google search (Africa safari), and check out the results. Almost any agency booking safari tours from here will be good.

It isn't such a good idea to use a specifically local Nairobi company unless (like me) you want a real adventure.

If you go to Kenya, avoid Amboselli. It's the closest to Nairobi, and is full of would-be Clark Gables, all dressed in new safari gear and drinking gin & tonic. I once saw two dozen tourist vans chasing one baby elephant.

In eastern Kenya, Tsavo National Park is tremendous - the hotel is built overlooking a watering hole.

At sunset animals come there in their thousands (literally) to drink. You don't have to go anywhere - they come to you.

Serenegeti, Tanzani is also wonderful, but sometimes to have to drive a long way to find large groups of animals.

Kruger, in South Africa, is excellent, probably the best organized.

cheers

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:51 pm

In July 2001 I went on a safari in Masai Mara, Kenya. Since I have friends there, they chartered a van just for us (friend's family and my family) and a van driver from the Nairobi travel agency called "Going Places." Although Serengetti in Tanzania has slightly more wildlife, I'd go for Masai Mara. You have to pay an entrance fee to get into Masai Mara at the gate. In Masai Mara, I stayed at the Serena Hotel Masai Mara overnight. Its a luxurious hotel, so I really reccomend you stay there. I remember seeing the sunrise and animals from my hotel window. To go to Masai Mara, you can fly into Nairobi and take a van from Nairobi to Masai Mara. Even though the ride is hours long, its fun! I remember stopping places for a drink and more!
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:25 pm

My advice, fly from jfk to johannesburg, direct non stop flight on a brand new saa 346.

then go to the kruger national park in south africa.

The infrastructure and everything is top class here.

Trust me you will enjoy it more here. (in South Africa)

 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:31 pm

If it's Tanzania they want to go to, then fly to Nairobi and take the overnight train to Dar es Salam.

Did the chicken or the egg get laid first?
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:25 pm

My advice, fly from jfk to johannesburg, direct non stop flight on a brand new saa 346.

then go to the kruger national park in south africa.

The infrastructure and everything is top class here.

Trust me you will enjoy it more here. (in South Africa)

Hmm...re-read the post...he's not going, his friend is going to Italy and then Africa, and for this type of trip, flights are some what the last thing on your mind.  Wink/being sarcastic

Also, with all due respect to South Africa, South Africa is totally different than the other countries, Kenya especially.
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For the thread-starter: For a safari in that area, I would say to stick with Kenya.
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P.S. Get your friend to check out guidebooks, the "Lonely Planet" series would be the best.

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:43 pm

Wasim-

Sort of coincidentally, I am headed to East Africa to get married, trek up Kili, and safari in March. We're flying r/t from DEN-MSP-AMS-JRO-AMS-MSP-DEN. Our safari will take us to Serengeti, Ngorongoro Crater, and Lake Manyara. I agree with all other comments here regarding use of a local guide service--use one!!!

We paid USD $1100/pp for airfare through a consolidator. KLM seems to offer the best overall coverage of East Africa from Europe. If you're not going to safari in Kenya, I would avoid NBO--it's a long bus ride into Tanzania. South Africa also sounds like a great option.

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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:36 am

Thanks, guys. This info was very valuable. Thanks again!

 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:02 am

For those of you posting info about South Africa, a reminder that South Africa and East Africa are thousands of miles away from eachother! East Africa is made up of countries around and including Kenya, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Uganda, Somalia, Burundi and Djibouti.

As for getting to East Africa from Rome (FCO), the only direct flights are on East African Safari Air to Nairobi (none to Dar Es Salaam). These are the options available for connecting flights:
To Nairobi:
- Ethiopian Airlines via Addis Ababa
- British Airways/Kenya Airways/East African Safari Air via London
- KLM/Kenya Airways via Amsterdam
- Swiss via Zurich
- Corsair/East African Safari Air via Paris
- Egypt Air via Cairo
- SN Brussels via Brussels

To Dar Es Salaam:
- Ethiopian Airlines via Addis Ababa
- British Airways via London
- KLM via Amsterdam
- Swiss via Zurich
- Egypt Air via Cairo

As others mentioned, the best way to make arrangements for safaris are through a reputable travel agency.

Lufthansa pulled out of NBO and DAR years ago, so did Air France.
 
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RE: Planning African Safari Trip From NYC - Need Help!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:14 am

I spent 3 weeks in South Africa for vacation last year.

I highly recommend Krueger. I spent almost a week in Krueger and
did not see even a 10th of it because it is so big. It was an
amazing experience. Never want to go to a zoo again.

The drive from Joburg to Krueger can be kinda long, but after you
get about 45 minutes east of Pretoria the hill country is
excellent.

South Africa is dirt cheap for everything. Capetown is the
best place. It was great to see lions one day and a few
days later seeing whales, seals and penguins. Domestic
flights are really cheap between Joburg and Capetown.
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