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Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:39 pm

I don't suppose there is an Eastern AL expert here who can tell me how EAL decided on the use of their stretch DC-8s in the `70s? Which routes the -61s were used on and which the -63s? As a kid I used to fly on EAL stretch-8s but I have no idea if they were -61s or -63s.

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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage

Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:47 pm


Hi!

The Eastern DC-8-61's was a natural choise for them and the increase of their capacity with this airplane. The DC-8-63 was different, Eastern ordered the version DC-8-63PF and that was a hybrid passenger/cargo option plane. Let's see the 63PF had the strong floor used in the cargo version CF but it didn't have side cargo door. The Eastern option was that one day they could convert these 63PF's in cargo version without spending much money to do all the modifications. If you look now closely all those PF's eventually were modified to cargo airplanes.
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:06 pm

As a kid I flew them a few times. I have flown EA's DC-8's on ATL-JFK and LAX-ATL and that was late 60's and early '70's.  Smile
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:26 am

Chances were that you flew on one of EAL's 17 -61s. The 6 -63PFs were built primarily as freighters with a passenger cabin. As CV990 pointed out, all 6 -63PFs were eventually converted into full freighters. UPS I believe has these airframes now. Regards.
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:37 am

Thanks !... 17-6 odds (plus the -63s PF factor) does point towards my having flown on -61s.
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:36 am

The EA DC-8-63s were intended for the Pacific market. EA hoped to receive the Pac routes in 1969/70 but the CAB never awarded them the routes. So EA put the DC-8-63s to use elsewhere.
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:44 am

I'd really like tag my request on with the original poster...just curious to know whether Eastern ever used any DC-8 model into San Antonio. The 720s were common but I've never seen a timetable with DC-8s although I do have an airport postcard showing a -61 taking off over the terminal.
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:44 am

I also flew on an EA DC-8-6? from JFK-ATL and back sevral times growing up in the 70's & early 80's.


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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:51 am

FWIW, Airport Activity Statistics show the following for the year ended 30June71:

EA departures from JFK included 2762 -61s, 1931 -63
from EWR 819 -61, 242 -63
from ATL 1063 -61, 431 -63
from MIA 3632 -61, 651 -63

Suspect the public timetable and OAG didn't distinguish between -61 and -63.

As for San Antonio, they saw 12 -20 departures in 1967 scheduled service;
In 1969, 123 -20, 16 -50, 2 -61 in sched svc;
Year ended 6/71, 14 -20, 35 -61, 192 -63.
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:31 am

I recall seeing the EA DC-8-61/63 in YYZ in the late 60's on occasion. EA routes included YYZ-PIT/PHL/MIA.....which of these routes the DC-8-60 were used on I don't know....most likely YYZ-MIA I presume.

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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:51 am

Wow, Timz thanks for that information! That answers the question that I've long wondered about.
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:58 am

EAL's DC8 were primarily used for MATS charters for the DOD. The frequently flew the WRI-FRF routes.
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RE: DC-8 Out Of SAT

Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:38 am

Sure nuff, the 1969 EA timetables do show one DC-8 (unspecified type) nonstop to ATL from San Antonio.
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:44 am

The -63s were used primarily for MAC charters to Viet Nam and back.
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:03 am

I recall EAstern bringing the stretch 8 into PVD on a few occasions, in the early 70s. All were charters of course, but what amazed me the most was the longest runway at PVD during that time was ONLY 6,466 feet! I remember sitting in my classroom in junior high and staring out the window....I about went spastic when I suddenly saw that stretch 8 coming in on final to runway 23! There was only one other fellow student who could relate to my excitement, everyone else probably thought I was nuts! Big grin
 
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RE: Eastern DC-8-61, -63 Usage (?)

Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:14 am

Bumping this up for the history buffs.  Smile